AITA for asking my boyfriend for marriage before kids?

A woman in her 30s has been with her boyfriend for three years and both want children, but she has consistently said she wants marriage first. For her, it means building a stable, legally recognized family unit with the same last name and a clear lifelong commitment before bringing kids into the picture.

Her boyfriend insists he is not against marriage but fears it might not last, yet he would happily start a family immediately. When she restates her boundary, he accuses her of being unreasonable, imposing unfair “conditions” on having kids, and pressuring him with an ultimatum. She now feels gaslighted and questions whether her very common preference makes her the asshole in the relationship.

‘AITA for asking my boyfriend for marriage before kids?’

She has clearly communicated her desire for marriage before children multiple times.

Me (F 30s) has been with my boyfriend (M 30s) for 3 years. He really wants kids and so do I although I’m not as in a rush as he...

It’s just what I’ve always wanted, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having kids and not being married, it’s just not what I want for myself.

I want us to be a proper family & all have the same last name etc. I also want him to want to marry me and not just ask me...

He reacts by framing her boundary as unfair pressure and an ultimatum.

When I’ve communicated this he’s acted like I’m being unreasonable and says I’m not being fair by giving “conditions” to having kids.

He says I’m putting pressure on him and thinks I’m unfair giving him an ultimatum. He’s really made me feel like I’m completely unreasonable but I think this is a...

The disconnect leaves her questioning her own stance and seeking outside perspective.

He says he’s not against marriage but is just scared of it if it doesn’t work out, yet he’d be happy to have kids with me tomorrow? I’m asking this...

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Her position is not an ultimatum but a compatibility requirement: she wants a lifelong commitment formalized before creating lifelong dependents. Marriage offers legal protections, shared financial responsibility, and social recognition that co-parenting without it lacks. His willingness to have children immediately while resisting marriage suggests he views kids as less binding than a legal union—a concerning double standard.

If he fears divorce, the logical response is not to skip marriage but to address those fears through counseling or deeper conversation; instead, he deflects by calling her request unfair pressure. Opposing views sometimes frame any condition around kids as manipulative, arguing love and readiness should be enough. Yet having children without marriage can leave the non-married partner (often the mother) far more vulnerable in case of separation. Her stance prioritizes stability for future children, not control over him.

This highlights a fundamental mismatch in commitment values. A healthy partnership respects each person’s non-negotiables without guilt-tripping or dismissal. If he truly wants kids with her, he must decide whether he can meet her need for marriage—or whether their timelines and definitions of family are incompatible.

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Here’s how people reacted to the post:

The majority strongly supported her position, viewing marriage before kids as a reasonable and protective boundary.

somethingstrange87 − NTA. Having kids together is an even more permanent connection than marriage. If a marriage doesn't work out you get divorced and walk away. Once kids are involved...

madwitchbitch − NTA. Dude thinks having a child together takes less commitment than getting married? Big red flag to me. I think he just likes the idea of having kids...

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dr_lucia − I’ve made it clear several times that I want to be married before having kids. This is an entirely sane position. Kids benefit from stability.

Marriage increases the likelihood parents will still be together when the kids grow up. These are just a facts. says I’m not being fair by giving “conditions” to having kids....

You want a stable relationship, decent economic prospects etc. If he's worried your relationship might not "work out", then you shouldn't have kids. That's no situation to bring kids into....

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Putasonder − “You’re putting conditions on having kids! ” The correct answer is: “Yes, I am. I will not have children unless I’m married to their father. If that’s an...

Men like this want kids in a hurry because they’re not the ones who will carry them, birth them, and usually, they also won’t bother raising them.

ProfileElectronic − he’s acted like I’m being unreasonable and says I’m not being fair by giving “conditions” to having kids. He says I’m putting pressure on him and thinks I’m...

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He's never going to marry you - kids or no kids. Figure out if that's what you want from life and this relationship. Btw NTA - all your reasons are...

IMO it should not just be marriage before kids but marriage for at least 3 years before kids - so that you both have time to figure out finances, expectations,...

Many commenters raised serious concerns about his attitude toward commitment and her future security.

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IgnoranceIsShameful − So his plan if it "doesn't work out" is to bounce and let you be a single mom.

He doesn't want to marry you but he wants his seed spread and for that you'll do just fine. Doesn't really sound like the type you should be doing either...

BAR12358 − NTA He's telling you that there's every chance he won't stay. Want to raise kids alone?

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[Reddit User] − NTA, the guy clearly doesn’t want to commit, but only use you as a vessel to bring his kids into this world. Don’t fall for that.

A few responses emphasized long-term compatibility and urged her to stand firm on her values.

HoshiJones − Oh my GOD. Run. Run fast, run far. Your boyfriend has the maturity of a teenager. Tell him to f__k right off into space.

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That you're a human being, not an incubator, and you damn well expect a commitment before risking your health and future on his desire to play daddy. NTA, but if...

EggplantIll4927 − I will never understand why kids are seen as less commitment than marriage.

This situation reveals a core mismatch in how two people view commitment and family-building. She wants marriage as a foundation of security before children; he wants kids immediately while treating marriage as optional or scary. His reaction—framing her boundary as unfair pressure—has left her doubting a very common preference. Most voices online saw her stance as protective and rational, and his as a red flag for unequal commitment.

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Have you ever set a firm “marriage before kids” boundary, and how did your partner respond? Do you think wanting legal commitment before children is outdated, or still important in today’s world? What would you do if a long-term partner resisted marriage but pushed for kids? Share your thoughts below—we’d love to hear different perspectives on timing, commitment, and family planning.

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