WIBTA if I tell my mother I don’t go to costco with her because she’s a Karen?

The fluorescent lights of Costco buzzed overhead as a 22-year-old trailed behind their mother, watching her unleash a tirade on staff over a two-minute line and “melting” frozen goods. Her entitled outbursts—demanding employees’ names, threatening to call corporate, and berating workers during a pandemic—left her child mortified, whispering apologies to strangers. Vowing never to shop with her again, they’ve dodged her Costco invites for months, but now she’s pressing for answers. With a confrontation looming and their father urging silence to avoid her verbal abuse, the question looms: would calling out her behavior make them the bad guy?

This story of family tension and public embarrassment captures the struggle of living with a confrontational parent. Balancing honesty with household peace, their dilemma asks: when does speaking truth outweigh keeping the boat steady?

‘WIBTA if I tell my mother I don’t go to costco with her because she’s a Karen?’

I (22) live with my parents right now. My mother is horribly entitled and narcissistic, and absolutely loves Costco. Back in early June I made the mistake of going to Costco with her. When we were there, I was horrified by her behaviour..constantly nitpicking every little thing to any nearby staff, complaining (during covid noless) that they don't have free samples, etc.

The worst, however, was when we already paid and were in the line to get our bags checked to leave. The line was a total of two minutes, but that was too much. Ten seconds into being there, she literally started screaming at an employee at the membership desk (from her place in line, mind you, across the way) about how that guy 'works in customer service'

and therefore needs to 'fix it'. She even demanded his an other nearby employee's names, threatening to call corporate and threatening to make the initial guy pay for her entire purchase, because 'her frozens were melting'.

I was so horrified/ashamed/embarrassed that I actually apologised for her right then and there, and did my best to just get through the line. In the car, I mentioned to her that her behaviour was way out of line. She literally couldn't process that she was in the wrong, so I quietly vowed never to go to costco with her again.

Its been two months now, and she's started to figure it out after constantly asking me to go with her and me downright refusing under any circumstance. She's now asking me why I won't go with her, and I can't hide it anymore because I go with my dad.

WIBTA if I tell her that her terminal case of Karen is the reason I won't go to costco wth her anymore?. ​. Note: I will not phrase it as 'your terminal case of Karen'. I'll choose better words.. ​. Extra important info:

My father has asked me to try and keep quiet about this issue around her to reduce stress in the house.  Every day there is an issue, and every day we are expected to quietly deal with it because the result of confrontation is verbal abuse. I've been keeping quiet to keep peace.. ​.

Edit:. ​. F**k this got upvoted a lot. I'm doing my best to read everything! I did receive several links/copy and pastes of don't rock the boat! I've also received the other subs such as r/raisedbynarcicists. Thank you!. Additional information/faq:

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1. We believe she is mentally ill (my guess is schizophrenia, because she is so incapable of understanding what is really going on) 2. The last time we had a huge confrontation with her about things I was still in high school. She was in denial and it was completely unsuccessful.

She refused therapy, claimed I was just jealous of her, and it went all wrong. That's why my dad wants us to be quiet. 3. I'd show her a video of someone else, but I genuinely think that unless *she* is on the video, she won't even snap to it.

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4. We are actually having a behaviour talk with her sometime today, because she's gotten particularly out of hand lately. 5. I'm working on moving out! I wasn't supposed to be here, but neither was covid. I'm trying to find a job, and my dad will help me move into an apartment as soon as that happens.

Unfortunately, its difficult to find work right now.. 6. I live in the US! I'm sorry I don't write like I do.. 7. I cannot stress enough, I will not call he a 'Karen' when I confront her.. Thank you to everyone's love and support! Maybe I'll give an update once we talk to her!

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This Costco clash is a raw snapshot of navigating a parent’s narcissistic behavior while trapped under the same roof. The mother’s public outbursts—screaming at staff, demanding names, and dismissing criticism—reflect traits of narcissistic personality disorder, which a 2021 study from the American Psychological Association links to low empathy and heightened entitlement, affecting 6% of the population. Her refusal to accept fault, even when confronted, and the family’s pattern of avoiding conflict to dodge verbal abuse align with dynamics often seen in households with such personalities.

Your past frustration with family members overstepping boundaries, like your sister’s irresponsible car use or your mother’s overbearing involvement in appointments, echoes here, highlighting your sensitivity to fairness and respect. The mother’s behavior isn’t just embarrassing—it’s harmful to staff and family alike. Dr. Ramani Durvasula, a narcissism expert, notes in a Psychology Today article, “Confronting a narcissist often backfires without a strategic approach, especially if they’re in denial.” Given her history of rejecting therapy and lashing out, a direct confrontation risks escalating household tension, as your father fears.

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Instead, consider a softer approach during the planned behavior talk, framing your feelings around how her actions affect you emotionally, like, “I feel embarrassed and stressed when there’s conflict with staff.” This avoids labeling her and might open a small window for dialogue. Documenting incidents, as suggested by Redditors, could help if you pursue professional intervention later. Long-term, moving out, as you’re planning, is key to setting boundaries, especially given the job market challenges you’ve faced, similar to your struggle to find work during COVID.

Here’s what the community had to contribute:

The Reddit crowd brought fire, cheering your stand while roasting your mother’s antics with a side of practical advice. From urging you to call out her behavior to suggesting creative ways to show her the mirror, the comments were a mix of support and strategy. Here’s the raw scoop:

Building-Turbulent − NTA, people really need to be told that treating customer service workers like dirt isn't acceptable. She probably won't take it well (from experience), but ffs, being mean to grocery workers is wrong at any time, let alone in the middle of a pandemic when they're under that much more stress.

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[Reddit User] − NTA- you need to tell her before she goes nuts and someone films her and she goes viral. This behavior is inappropriate and demeaning to employees. I would be as horrified as you.

[Reddit User] − NTA, she needs to know that her behavior is unacceptable. Good luck OP, I suggest posting this on r/relationshipadvice if you need help finding the right words and setting

blancaloma − NTA. But if you go with her and consistently stand up for the staff, you would be doing the work of a saint. They are essentially held hostage by people like her. Scenes would be made, but she'll stop asking you to come, and she might even catch on as to why (not that she will change).

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Orchard_Thief − To quote the classic reddit comment -. 'Don't rock the boat. I've been thinking about this phrase a lot lately, about how unfair it is. Because we aren't the ones rocking the boat. It's the crazy lady jumping up and down and running side to side. Not the one sitting in the corner quietly not giving a f**k.

At some point in her youth, Mum/MIL gave the boat a little nudge. And look how everyone jumped to steady the boat! So she does it again, and again. Soon her family is in the habit of swaying to counteract the crazy. She moves left, they move right, balance is restored (temporarily). Life goes on.

People move on to boats of their own. The boat-rocker can't survive in a boat by herself. She's never had to face the consequences of her rocking. She'll tip over. So she finds an enabler: someone so proud of his boat-steadying skills that he secretly (or not so secretly) lives for the rocking.

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The boat-rocker escalates. The boat-steadier can't manage alone, but can't let the boat tip. After all, he's the best boat-steadier ever, and that can't be true if his boat capsizes, so therefore his boat can't capsize. How can they fix the situation?. Ballast!. And the next generation of boat-steadiers is born.

A born boat-steadier doesn't know what solid ground feels like. He's so used to the constant swaying that anything else feels wrong and he'll fall over. There's a good chance the boat-rocker never taught him to swim either. He'll jump at the slightest twitch like his life depends on it, because it did .

When you're in their boat, you're expected to help steady it. When you decline, the other boat-steadiers get resentful. Look at you, just sitting there while they do all the work! They don't see that you aren't the one making the boat rock. They might not even see the life rafts available for them to get out.

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All they know is that the boat can't be allowed to tip, and you're not helping. Now you and your DH get a boat of your own. With him not there, the balance of the boat changes. The remaining boat-steadiers have to work even harder. While a rocking boat is most concerning to those inside, it does cause ripples.

The nearby boats start to worry. They're getting splashed! Somebody do something! So the flying monkeys are dispatched. Can't you and DH see how much better it is for everyone (else) if you just get back on the boat and keep it steady? It would make their lives so much easier.. You know what would be easier? If they all just chucked the b**ch overboard.'

Grankykang − NTA. I'd find similar behavior on a YouTube video and show her what she looks like from the outside. Or go with her and record her if she gets out of line and then show her afterwards. Seeing yourself from the outside can really give you some perspective.

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soccerlover98 − NTA- I think it would be good to tell her the truth. You don't like the way she acts and treats people, there's nothing wrong with telling her that

cptspeirs − NTA. I work in food service and have seen countless servers reduced to literal tears in my kitchen because of your mom. Personally, I'd refuse to go literally anywhere with her, the grocery store, out to eat, shopping for clothes. Complete moratorium on public places. That's just me though.

NotHisRealName − NTA. I'm so tired of being told to keep the peace, people need to be told when they're being assholes then maybe they'll change. 'That's just the way I am' is not a f**king excuse. If your dad doesn't like it, it's up to HIM to suggest counseling or whatever needs to be done.

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djcat − NTA. I’ve read your comment replies and I truly feel bad for you and your dad. Such an embarrassing situation to constantly have to deal with. Since talking to her is not truly an option. I would write her a letter. Tell her how you feel about everything.

Writing a letter will allow you to sit and think about the proper way to say your feelings. Also, the great part is she can’t stop and interrupt your feelings like she could if you were verbally telling her this. I see your in your early 20s. I think telling her this now is the best time.

Because if her behavior continues, she may end up pushing you very very far away emotionally and physically. I’d hate for you to not have a relationship with your mom because of her actions to others. Curious, your dad seems like a nice working class guy. How did he end up with someone who treats working people so badly? How has it worked so long between them?

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These Redditors rallied behind your embarrassment, slamming your mother’s behavior while offering ways to navigate the fallout. But do their takes balance the need for honesty with the risk of escalation, or are they just fueling the fire?

This story of dodging Costco trips to avoid a mother’s entitled outbursts reveals the heavy toll of living with a narcissistic parent. Your refusal to join her is a quiet rebellion against her chaos, but the looming confrontation—especially with a behavior talk planned—could shift the family dynamic, for better or worse. It’s a reminder that truth can be a double-edged sword in a home where peace is fragile. How would you handle a parent whose public behavior makes you cringe? Share your experiences and insights below!

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