[UPDATE] WIBTAH if I break off my engagement because of his new views about women?

After more than a decade together, one woman found herself facing a decision she never expected to make. The man she planned to marry began outlining a future that looked nothing like the partnership she thought they had built, one where her independence, career, and voice would slowly fade into the background. What started as a conversation about marriage quickly turned into a reckoning about identity, values, and love.

At the same time, thousands of people across social media weighed in, offering support, concern, and blunt honesty. Some focused on the sudden shift in beliefs, others on the emotional cost of walking away from a first love. The twist lies in how grief and relief can exist side by side, and how ending something painful can still feel like losing someone who mattered deeply.

[UPDATE] WIBTAH if I break off my engagement because of his new views about women?

Everything picked up again after the original argument pushed her to take physical and emotional space:

After I left, I went to a hotel. He kept contacting me to ask when I was coming home. I told him I needed time to think and turned off...

When I turned it back on, I saw his photo on my lock screen and decided to call him (for reasons that will make sense later). He said he wanted...

When they finally sat down together, apologies were exchanged, but the deeper issue quickly surfaced:

He apologized for implying that I'm not special. I apologized for implying our relationship isn't special. We've been together for 12 years, so saying that was hurtful and untrue.

(Before anyone compares the harshness of our statements, his wrongs don't justify my own and vice versa.)

{Disclaimer: This post isn't about the validity or ethics of gender roles. This is strictly an account of what happened with no wider social commentary from me}.

As the conversation turned toward the future, the gap between them became impossible to ignore:

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We discussed what we wanted for the future. He wants a "traditional marriage", and specified the following:. I would quit my job and we'd start trying for a baby right...

I'd be a SAHM until the kids are old enough for primary school and we'd raise them as Christians. He wants to protect and provide for our family, and I...

He assured me that I could still disagree with him and have a say, but he wants to ultimately have the final say in most things.

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Her response was clear, even though it hurt:

He asked if I understood what he wanted, and I said yes. When he asked me if I still wanted to get married, I told him that I didn't. He...

This post is long enough, so I won't detail how he got into this gender essentialim stuff or why I don't want the type of relationship he's asking for. Suffice...

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He wants to do a "trial run" of his preferred setup "so I can see that it's for the best". I told him that we had a very successful trial...

One small detail captured how final everything felt to her:

So about the lock screen: He has a small snaggletooth toward the back that he's always been shy about, so he never fully smiles in public.

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That photo is one of very few pictures where he is showing his real smile and it's beautiful. Seeing that photo used to make me so happy. When I saw...

I know it sounds dramatic, but it feels like he died and was replaced by some kind of redpilled pod person. When he asked me if I still loved him...

I get that many people had strong feelings about the things he said, and he definitely crossed the line several times, but this is still so hard for me to...

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I'm relieved that it's over but still sad about how it ended. I accept that he's a different person now, but it's hard not to think of what could have...

Reflecting on their history added another layer of complexity:

Edit: About that age gap 😬, I rounded up from the more accurate "11 years and however many months" and just said 12 years, but, yeah, I was 17 and...

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I know that's a big🚩🚩🚩 now, but AT THE TIME, I didn't see it that way. I was raised in a super conservative family, and intended to "save myself for...

I slowly moved away from ultraconservatism/religion as I got older. I know that's still a little sus that he was with me to begin with, but fwiw, we didn't have...

From a relationship standpoint, this situation highlights how deeply values shape long-term compatibility. The poster wasn’t reacting to a single comment or argument; she was responding to a complete redefinition of what marriage would mean for her life. When one partner introduces expectations that fundamentally change power, autonomy, and identity, the relationship itself becomes something new, and not everyone can or should adapt to that.

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It’s also important to acknowledge the fiancé’s perspective without endorsing it. People do change, and belief systems can shift due to social influences, personal insecurity, or fear about the future. Wanting structure or certainty isn’t unusual. The problem arises when those desires override mutual agreement and shared decision-making, especially after years of operating as equals.

Relationship researcher Dr. John Gottman has emphasized that lasting partnerships rely on mutual respect and influence. As he has stated through The Gottman Institute, “Partners who accept influence from each other have happier, more stable relationships.” When one person insists on having the final say, that balance erodes, often leading to resentment rather than security.

Practically speaking, the poster did something difficult but healthy. She listened, clarified expectations, and made a decision based on long-term reality rather than nostalgia. For anyone in a similar situation, experts often suggest slowing conversations down, writing out non-negotiables, and asking whether the proposed future feels safe and authentic. If the answer is no, walking away can be an act of self-respect rather than failure.

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Here’s the feedback from the Reddit community:

Many users supported her decision, emphasizing clarity and self-trust after such a long relationship:

Bloodystupidjohnson3 − You put it perfectly right here: “He asked if I understood what he wanted, and I said yes. When he asked me if I still wanted to get...

He has the right to change his mind, but it’s not the arrangement we agreed to when he proposed. ” You made an informed decision.

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ElehcarTheFirst − I'm very proud of you. It's hard to make that change. And you were so honest about how this isn't going to work for you, and yes, he...

You had 10 good years and 2 bad ones. Those bad ones outweigh the good. You're going to thrive.

Has422 − Middle-aged married man here. Sounds like you handled things about just right. "I told him that we had a very successful trial run of not doing that for...

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Mountain_Cat_cold − Well done, sis. It would be weird and concerning if this was *not* hard and difficult. That does not mean it is not the right thing to do.

It absolutely is. Take your time to feel all the emotions and grieve for what was and what could have been.

[Reddit User] − Girl, you definitely dodged a bullet. It might feel tough right now, but trust me, in a few months you'll be thanking yourself every single day for...

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Others offered sharper criticism while still backing her choice:

AcanthisittaNo9122 − He wants trial run for you being a SAHM and have a baby? What would he do with the baby when you tell him that the trial run...

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Ok_Routine9099 − …Wait, you were 16 and he was 22 when you got together? He started with a power dynamic that was what he was looking for in life.

He’s likely been grooming you to be a submissive housewife for a long while, even if only in the back of his mind. Only after putting a ring on it...

Do not let him love bomb and baby trap you! Your 28 YO self is an adult, your 16 YO self was not a fully formed adult. You were in...

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I’m glad you are peace with the decision. You deserve to be with someone that sees woman as full human beings, for both yourself and future children you have

HelloJunebug − Oh goodness. I just realized the age gap too. You were 16 and he was 22?! I’m honestly surprised it took this long for his s__t to come...

2npac − It's so sad what these redpill podcast bros are doing to these guys. Or maybe he always held those beliefs but kept them hidden.

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But good for you for seeing the writings on the wall and ending it completely. There's no point in trying to "test" things out when you already know that's not...

foodguy1994 − What a loser. Threw away a 10 year long relationship because he was convinced of this nonesense by some YouTube grifter.

Anytime you have someone put an entire gender or race together, you know they have been sold in a lie so old and stupid, it’s pathetic. Is he living a...

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Also, at age 34, does he think he’s gonna find another virgin? He’s the only guy you’ve been with. Unless he plans to do the creep outside your local high...

A few comments tried to lighten the mood, even while calling out the red flags:

_ararana − As a man, good for you. Sorry your fiancé jumped off the deep end of the crazy pool. "he wants to ultimately have the final say in most...

delinaX − I just wanna tell you something: You can love people but not _like_ them. I'm proud of you OP. It sounds like exactly what you said.

He's turned into a podcast, Andrew Tate copycat, incel and generally all the red flags. Good luck with everything OP and I hope someone punches that one tooth out of...

Mewsiex − I think the reason of his change of heart regarding gender roles in marriage IS very interesting and I'd love to know what radicalised him. AND it's alarming...

Women are people, they don't have to submit to other people and anyone believing otherwise has no business associating with women and gaining value from them.

And the obsession with having the final say is proof of a puny mind. Only fools think they know everything and are qualified for everything. I'm glad you are free...

Just a tip for going forward: make sure he no longer has access to your living space, your car or your belongings and tell your family, friends and work that...

Many men do not take being broken up with well and many exact revenge on their exes after acting as though they are being mature about it.

(I hope this is just my pessimism about human nature, but it's better to be safe than sorry. ) I wish you the best! Stay safe and take it one...

HelloJunebug − It’s for the best really. That relationship if you stayed would have been so exhausting and sad for you. He’s take every ounce of autonomy from you.

SuperSaiyanNoob − we've been together for 12 years checks ages in original post oh

In the end, this wasn’t about winning an argument or proving someone wrong. It was about recognizing that love alone doesn’t guarantee a shared future. The poster chose honesty over comfort, even though it meant grieving both the man she loved and the life she once imagined. Some will see her decision as brave, others as inevitable, but it clearly came from deep reflection. What would you do if the person you planned to marry suddenly wanted a life you couldn’t recognize as your own?

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