AITAH for agree that my 11 year old daughter should not attend my husband’s familes boys trip?

A mother stands firm in her decision to keep her 11-year-old daughter from joining her husband’s family’s annual “boys trip” to their northern Michigan cabin, a decades-old tradition focused on fishing and male bonding among about 20 guys. The daughter, who loves fishing more than the activities on the family’s separate girls trip, feels excluded simply because she’s a girl and has asked repeatedly to go along.

What makes the situation more complicated is that the mother sees the boys trip as a longstanding guys-only event, much like the girls trip she organizes with female relatives. While she offers alternatives like a local fishing day with her daughter, the girl remains upset, and outside opinions are split—some call it unfair exclusion, others defend the value of single-gender traditions.

‘AITAH for agree that my 11 year old daughter should not attend my husband’s familes boys trip?’

The family maintains separate traditions for boys and girls.

My husband and I have 2 boys, 9 and 15, and a daughter, 11. Every year, my husband's family does a big " boys" trip up to the family cabin...

They have been doing this for decades. It's like 20 guys, tents in the backyard, cabin full of air mattresses, etc. Also, every year, which we did in mid July,...

We did do some fishing but we did putt putt, kayaking, sightseeing too. So mostly morning fishing, and only like 5 of us, the rest don't fish.

The daughter feels unfairly left out of the fishing-focused event.

My daughter wants to go on the boys trip because it's more fishing focused, and it's not fair she can't go because she's a girl. I said that the girls...

She's mad and wants to go on the guy's trip from now on. I said no, and to drop it. We can fish up north at a lake this weekend,...

Outside opinions leave her questioning her stance.

My sister thinks I'm wrong but I don't see how, and my best friend thinks it's " sad". I don't agree, since she will have another up north weekend right...

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The mother’s position rests on preserving the longstanding structure of the boys trip, which includes many adult men and creates a specific dynamic for male relatives to connect openly. Adding an 11-year-old girl could alter conversations, comfort levels, and the overall atmosphere for everyone involved, even with her father present. Safety concerns around large mixed-age male groups and a pre-teen girl also surface naturally for some parents.

At the same time, the daughter’s frustration is understandable—she clearly prefers fishing over putt-putt and kayaking, and being excluded purely because of her gender can feel arbitrary and hurtful at her age, especially when her brothers are allowed to participate. Opposing views emphasize flexibility and fairness. If the trip already includes children and no inappropriate behavior occurs, some argue there’s little reason to bar a tomboyish girl who would fit right in.

Others suggest alternatives like a dedicated daddy-daughter outing or a full-family fishing weekend to meet her needs without disrupting tradition. Broader social perspective here touches on evolving ideas about gender roles: rigid single-sex events can reinforce stereotypes, yet they also provide safe spaces for open expression, particularly for men who may lack other outlets for vulnerability. Balancing tradition with a child’s feelings requires creativity rather than a flat no.

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Here’s the comments of Reddit users:

Many users supported the mother’s decision, highlighting the importance of preserving single-gender bonding and realistic concerns about group dynamics.

GrowlingAtTheWorld − I think a daddies and daughters trip might be what she needs so she can fish and do the outdoor things she sees her brothers getting to do....

Different_Mud_1209 − Man I hate gender-specific events like this. It ends up putting an expectation of "this is what boys do and this is what girls do" on people.

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Sounds like she wants to spend time with the boys because they do things she's more interested in than the girls do.

david72781 − Unpopular opinion here on reddit, but I think its ok to have just guys and just girls trips. Beyond the activities there's bonding that is specific to those...

LumpyPhilosopher8 − There are actually good positive reasons for people to go to single gender events.

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Single gender events allow people to communicate more openly, they can be more supportive and share experiences they might not do in a mixed gender gathering.

Men often struggle with their mental health and are more likely to commit suicide - and one contributing factor is not having the social support or close friendships that women...

Experiences like this trip are one way for men to bond and build these relationships. You can't just add an 11 year old girl into a group of 20 men/boys...

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As long as the trip isn't about enforcing rigid gender roles and that the girl is given opportunities to do the things she enjoys doing then it's not a bad...

Its also good for the daughter to learn that we aren't always going to be invited to everything. The boys aren't invited to her event either.

bmcxo − NTA. Many of us as women want certain women only spaces where we’re comfortable and it’s just for the girlies. I don’t see why men aren’t allowed to...

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Others took a more balanced or opposing stance, focusing on the daughter’s interests and potential unfairness of gender-based exclusion.

Muted_Cap_6559 − You haven't told us the basis of your objection, other than your daughter typically participates in the "girls' trip. " Maybe she thinks the girls' trip is boring....

Overrated_Softball − I’m going to say YTA, BUT on the condition that the ONLY reason she can’t go is because of her biological s__.

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It sounds like your daughter is a tomboy and has no desire or intent to change anything about the trip itself, aside from her being allowed to be present on...

If she likes fishing, I see no reason she can’t just slot herself into the trip and routine without changing the dynamic significantly. If it were a trip with all...

But since her brothers and presumably other kids will be there, it’s not like there should be any ‘boys talk’ that’d be inappropriate for her to hear- or else it’d...

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children shouldn’t be hearing ‘locker room talk’ of any kind. Have y’all even floated the idea of her coming along on the trip to the rest of the group?

And if yes and they’re against it, is there any reason beyond her chromosomes? Because frankly, that is kind of a dumb reason to exclude someone who seems like they’d...

Head_Razzmatazz7174 − At that age, my tomboy self could not stand going with the 'women' to do 'girl stuff'. My mother, after getting a ton of reassurance from my dad...

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We had a blast, I managed to catch my first decent sized fish (which we had for dinner that night) and the boys and I got covered in so much...

we literally got hosed down in our filthy clothes before we were let back into the cabin. My mother, after hearing my enthusiastic description of the trip, had no more...

A few comments offered light-hearted or creative suggestions to ease the tension.

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Inner_Pipe6540 − Why not do a family fishing focused trip

UnPracticed_Pagan − I’m not going to judge because it’s a lot of mixed reasons why I could judge each “rating” Because the guys trip is 20+ men, I absolutely agree...

I understand it’s family, and her dad would be there, but SA in minors rarely happens from strangers and I’m sorry not that anyone wants to ever think ill of...

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Someone else commented it, and I agree there isn’t anything wrong with bonding of the same gender in families having trips.

Especially because some types of parties or events are geared toward one vs the other (example baby showers, daddy daughter dances, mommy and son dances, bridal parties, etc),

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BUT I think your daughter is getting to the age where she wants to be included with the boys and that’s normal and okay,

but should be a sign that maybe yall need to start doing a larger coop/all family camping trip or something. I get maybe not everyone can go but let the...

This story reflects the tension between honoring family traditions and responding to a child’s genuine interests and sense of fairness. The mother prioritizes the established boys-only format and equivalent girls trip, while her daughter sees only the exclusion from something she’d truly enjoy. Creative compromises—like targeted father-daughter outings—could bridge the gap without dismantling long-standing customs.

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Have you ever navigated gender-specific family events when a child felt left out? Did you stick to tradition or find a workaround? How important do you think single-gender bonding remains in families today, or should activities be based purely on shared interests?

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