AITA for telling my friend that it’s not abuse?

Imagine a heart-to-heart with your friend, her voice trembling as she unloads childhood tales labeled “abuse”—a phone snatched at 8 p.m., thrift store threads, a 10-minute naughty chair timeout, and no snacks before dinner or at midnight. You listen, offer comfort, then gently say it sounds normal, like the moms at your church group. Boom—her eyes blaze, she storms off, and now she’s gone silent.

Was it a misstep to question her “abuse” claim? The air’s thick with hurt, doubt, and a clash of perspectives—what’s discipline to one might wound another. Reddit’s buzzing, split on this tricky talk. Did a well-meaning friend fumble, or was honesty the right call? Let’s dive into this messy mix of empathy and truth—grab a seat!

‘AITA for telling my friend that it’s not abuse?’

Here’s the raw scoop, straight from Reddit’s heart. A friend’s childhood story spirals into a debate—abuse or just rules?—and tempers flare:

So my friend 25f told me yesterday that she was abused a child. I automatically went to tell her how sorry I was and that if she wanted to tell me about it I'm a listening ear. She starts to tell me about her abuse and I kinda thought that everything she was telling me was not abuse.. So she talked about how her phone was taken off her at 8.00 every night.. He mom would only buy her thrift store clothing.

Her mum had the naughty chair, it was the chair you sat in for 10 minutes if you where naughty.. She did not get treats after dinner. She then went on about how sometimes she was starved, so I asked how long that could last. She told me that she was not allowed to eat food an hour before dinner. And midnight snacks where banned.

I asked if she bad ever been hit, I also added that she can refuse to answer a question if she does not want to answer. She had never been hit and her mum never called her any names or yelled at her, unless she was being naughty.. I asked if there was anything else and she said no.. that all seemed pretty normal to me.

I then said, that's not abuse, all the mums I work with at the church group do the same things.. She got megga pissed and left and is refusing to speek to me. I honestly think I was being an a**hole and if she does not want to talk to me after this I'll accept. But hey I wanna see what others think.

Friendship chats can turn tender fast, and this one hit a nerve. A 25-year-old woman shared childhood gripes—phone curfews, thrift clothes, a naughty chair, no extra snacks—calling it abuse. Her pal, after checking for hitting or harsh words, deemed it normal parenting, like church moms she knows. The friend bolted, furious, and cut contact. A clash of lenses!

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Psychologist Dr. Bessel van der Kolk notes in a 2023 Trauma Research Foundation post, “Abuse isn’t just physical; perception of control or shame can scar deeply” (Source). While 80% of parents use timeouts, per the American Academy of Pediatrics (Source), context matters—strict rules might feel isolating if inconsistent or shaming. Was more left unsaid?

The friend meant well, but dismissing her view stung—feelings trump facts here. She’s valid to feel hurt; you’re not wrong to question. Try this: text an apology—“I’m sorry, I didn’t hear you fully, can we talk?”—and suggest therapy for her.

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Here’s the input from the Reddit crowd:

Reddit’s crew charged in with fiery takes—bold, raw, and ready to unpack this friendship fallout. Here’s the crowd dishing on abuse, rules, and hurt feelings:

lyre34 − NTA, every example you gave in your post sounds just like good parenting to me.

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Rabid-Sqrl − NTA. That's not abuse. She's spoiled.

TheLoveliestKaren − I'll hold judgement either way. I don't think what you did was wrong, so you're not the a**hole but I honestly can't say whether I think she's the a**hole. I was abused as a child, which was something I could not come to terms with until I was 30. In my case, by abused I mean my parents would not take me to the dentist or doctor unless I pressured them, they would scream at me just for being upset, such as crying.

They've left me at the side of the road. They've hit me. My dad once pinned me to the floor and covered my mouth and nose so I could not breathe. The last time I saw them alone, I ended up with a giant, swollen black bruise on my leg and too sore all over to even hug my boyfriend or walk much for a couple of days. This was not the first time I'd gotten bruises, just the first time it was this bad.

These things would happen as far back as I can remember. It took me three years after this to internalise that it was abuse after this incident. Before that it was just that I had to not be alone with them anymore, because our arguments were getting out of hand. I sensed I was being abused long before I was ever able to label as that.

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I would say I had extremely strict parenting, and cite things that weren't really bad and were none of the things that I listed above, and sounded much more akin to what your friend said. The abuse, they convinced me was my fault. The abuse was things that *I* was doing not things they did, in my mind. If someone asked me if they ever hit me, I'd probably honestly answer no.

To me, the honest answer, is that we'd hit each other. I'd started it, and they were trying to calm me down because I was out of control (though thinking back I can't recall a time where I hit them first, I'd just be crying first, or say something snippy first, or act out of line first). I was ashamed that I was such a terrible kid. I think I internalised the abuse before I could pinpoint what made me feel that way.

Your friend might be doing the same. Think of what you know of her in general. Is she likely to mislabel wrongdoings like this on purpose? Is she sheltered/spoiled (I'm hesitant to ask this, because my parents spoiled me greatly and things like lots of presents and buying stuff is supposedly typical in abuse situations)? Does she overdramatize other things in her life?.

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EDIT to add: One of the comments reminded me of a situation I was in as a teen that I think perfectly demonstrates my point here. When I was a teenager, my mom called me while I was at a friends house and was pretty mad at me. I lost track of time and didn't call her by my curfew. I was supposed to call her at 11:00 and it was 11:05. I broke down.

I remember only really talking about how unfair I thought it was that she was mad about 5 min, and how the other friend I was there with got to stay out later and it seemed strict to me. That might have sounded like such a stupid thing to get upset about! An 11:00 curfew? But there was a lot surrounding that curfew and what was happening in that moment. It was overwhelming mostly because that rule was not a stable one.

Sometimes I could waltz in at 2am, and no one would care. Sometimes my curfew was 9. My curfew was just... whatever time my mom got anxious that I wasn't home. I freaked out about this, and broke down and cried and said I didn't want to go home. If I had less understanding friends, I could easily understand why they'd think I was being overly dramatic (not to mention, I really was an overly dramatic person at the time.

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Lots of things upset me). I don't remember actually being worried about the things I should have been worried about, like being left at the side of the road and forced to walk home again (I lived 45 min drive away from this friends house, and on the highway). So I probably couldn't have mentioned that fear if they'd asked me, but I think it was definitely driving the feelings of 'how dare this curfew thing happen'.

momminallday − I’m not passing judgment because I think what you said is true, but if she really thinks that’s abuse her feelings about it are valid (even if the abuse itself isn’t valid) and she needs help. Like talk therapy.

[Reddit User] − NTA. What the hell is wrong with this girl??? That's normal. It would actually be abuse (ie n**lect) not to discipline and enforce rules. She sounds either crazy or a brat.

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nevervisitsreddit − INFO - there could be more here. You’re right that what she described isn’t abuse, if it happened exactly as you’ve described and she didn’t leave things out or you missed context. Does she have siblings? Were these siblings also treated like this? (Because if they weren’t, that’s messed up)

How long did the Naughty Chair go on for (I.e. was she a teenager sitting on this chair) and did she say it was just a chair or is it possible that it was more? I’d suggest apologising to your friend for not listening, and if she is comfortable ask for more details, or suggest she talk to a professional about this as you are not qualified to deal with these serious issues.

Edit: I note you said “her mum never called her names or yelled, unless she’d been naughty” what is her mother classing as naughty? What was she yelling and saying? My dad never yelled at me unless I was “naughty”, but naughty to him included “speaking to him when he hadn’t eaten his dinner” so...

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FuckUGalen − YTA... Because unless you have professional qualifications that allow you to assess the effects of her mothers behaviour on her, you have no right to say 'that's not abuse'.. ​ It took me 10 years to tell my husband some of the details of my mothers abuse, and I told him in little details starting out with the smallest of offenses because I knew I deserved the abuse.

I still after 18 years of not living under her roof still believe on far to many levels that if I had just been better child. 15 years of my husband being a f**king amazing man, and I still expect him to not believe me, to judge me, to beat me down.. ​ Maybe you are right, and she had a peachy childhood... or maybe you just confirmed that no one will ever believe her.

CutieBoBootie − I'm going to refrain from judgement since we need more INFO from your friend. I'm not saying any of what she said was abuse but some of that type of behavior could be when added up. The phone thing specifically sticks out to me. Some invasive parents will regularly go through their children's phones. It also cuts off her ability to outside communication and support.

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My father would unplug the router every night so I couldn't connect to anything. It doesn't sound abusive, but it severely impacted my ability to get my school work done. Considering my grades were important to him, he was setting me up for failure. (There was a lot more that went into it). It just speaks to issues of control.

Thrift store clothing is frugal and practical, but usually it isn't great. I was bullied a LOT for having cheap clothes. If a parent doesn't address the issue of bullying properly that negativity can be turned towards the parents. I remember an argument my father and I had at the optometrist. He wanted to get the cheapest frames possible.

But I thought they looked ugly and wanted a more expensive pair. The fight got ugly and he left me, his 16 yr old daughter, alone at the optometrist 30 mins away from the house. I had to call a friend's mom to pick me up. The dinner thing could also have been abuse if she wasn't given access to proper lunches/breakfast or if the portion sizes were too small.

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My senior year my father didn't pay for my school lunch and didn't do the paperwork so I could get free and reduced lunch. My only meals were the free breakfast and the dinner I got when I arrive home. Dinner was at 6pm. Breakfast was at 7am. I was able to get snacks at home thankfully, but if my father didn't allow that I would imagine it to be extra abusive.

Not allowing midnight snacks would fall into that abusive category too. Sometimes when you're abused you think you deserved the yelling. Because you were 'naughty' or a 'problem child' cause otherwise why would your parents yell at you? That yelling might've been more than she expressed.

It is possible her mom was just a good mom and that your friend is a dramatic spoiled adult... Or her mom could be a helicopter parent whose abuse isn't easy to express into words. OP I don't think you were an a**hole, but truthfully I'd refrain from telling someone what the verdict on their abuse was.

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You weren't there and you didn't feel their feelings or experience their life. Sometimes people just want someone to listen and I think in the case of someone talking about potential abuse it's best to not pass judgement on their past misery. (even of they seem to be a drama queen). 

NoNoNashi − NTA. Sounds like she grew up with some pretty sound parenting going on. The term “abuse” should be used for real abuse - not just mild irritation.

Sofiwyn − ESH. Fair warning, this could be NTA since I'm probably biased because I was abused, and was told by someone who was abused worse than me that I wasn't. That's why I firmly believe that you're an a**hole for telling her it wasn't abuse. You just don't know that for sure. Maybe she's leaving out stuff, understating, idk.

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When my friend told me I wasn't abused and that my parents 'cared', she meant I deserved to be treated like that, and also I'm a s**t person for daring to be unhappy. That is a terrible TERRIBLE fking feeling. It ruined the progress I had made with cutting them off; her opinion was destructive.. But also... Just going on what she said, it doesn't sound like she was abused.

Also, this is in response to some ignorant comments, but being strict and caring doesn't mean you're incapable of abuse. My growth is stunted because I was frequently forced to skip meals from elementary school due to not being obedient enough or making perfect grades.

I was mildly molested because my mother was determined that I have clean privates, and thought she was more capable than me at cleaning them, past an appropriate age. She later forcibly shoved a tampon in me against my will (which is rape via digital penetration btw) because I needed to participate in swim classes during PE, and I would just 'get over the pain'.

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Except now I can't use tampons and penetrative s** frightens the hell out of me. I was not raped by someone with a s**ual intent. I did not have neglectful parents. But I was abused, because abuse takes multiple forms. Hell, I still have a relationship with my parents, but that doesn't erase the fact that I *was* abused.. Doesn't change the fact that this all affected me mentally and physically.

These spicy takes crackle, but do they hold? Was the friend harsh, or just honest?

What a tangle—a friend opens up about “abuse,” gets told it’s just parenting, and bolts in a huff! Phone curfews and naughty chairs sound tame to some, but her pain’s real, and now silence reigns. Reddit’s split—some cheer the honesty, others guard her feelings. Was calling it “not abuse” a misstep, or a fair take? How would you tread this tricky line—listen quietly or speak your mind? Spill your feelings, stories, and wisdom—let’s hash this out together!

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