AITA for telling my brother I’m not going to advocate for his wife to be included more when she’s rude to mine?

Imagine a family barbecue, laughter ringing out as old friends and new in-laws mingle, but a subtle chill lingers in one corner. A 33-year-old man, fiercely loyal to his wife of 18 years, faces a prickly dilemma: his younger brother begs him to smooth things over for his wife, Gem, whose sharp tongue has iced her out of the family’s warmth. Gem’s jealousy over his wife’s tight bond with their mom turned snarky comments into a full-blown rift, and now he’s drawing a line in the sand.

This Reddit gem sparkles with family tension, loyalty, and the sting of consequences. Readers might wince at Gem’s outsider status yet nod at the man’s steadfast defense of his high school sweetheart. It’s a tale of choosing love over obligation, weaving through the messy threads of family ties with a question: when does someone’s bad behavior forfeit their seat at the table?

‘AITA for telling my brother I’m not going to advocate for his wife to be included more when she’s rude to mine?’

My wife (32f) is very close to my (33m) family. We were childhood best friends, high school sweethearts and we've been together for 18 years now. They've known her all that time and my mom adores her and they're incredibly close. Actually my mom has a good relationship with all but one of her children's partners.

My younger brother's

While others would joke that my wife was mom's favorite kid, Gem would sound bitter and jealous about it. Then her comments turned mean about it. The jokes about it, which were never very frequent, stopped after that but Gem would bring it up anyway.

Then it was comments about exhausting it must be for my wife to have so many people who want her time and attention. Those were sparked by my siblings partners also getting along with my wife, not to mention my mom and wife hanging out and then my wife and I have kids together.

I asked Gem what her problem was, spoke to Aidan 1:1 as well and others spoke up in defense of my wife. Gem's biggest issue has always appeared to be my mom and my wife being close. I don't know why it drives her crazy but it does. Now Aidan's frustrated because Gem isn't included the way my wife and the other partners are.

The fact mom will do days with her daughters in-law and Gem isn't invited. Or that my wife will do girls stuff with the women in our family but she doesn't invite Gem because eventually she got sick of Gem's s**t too. She was better than me at brushing it off for a while but I think anyone would get annoyed by someone always treating them like s**t.

So Aidan came to me hoping I'd advocate for Gem to be included. He said she just feels left out and wants to be included. I told him she has a funny way of showing it. He said she knows she messed up but to give her another chance for him. I told him I'm not going to advocate for his wife's inclusion when she was so rude to mine.

I told him he needs to get Gem to make it up to everyone and work toward her inclusion or else she's staying an outsider. I told him I get that his loyalty is with his own wife but mine will always be with my wife. He told me someone our side needs to try or Gem will feel like she's wasting her time. I told him it's not on me.

He tried to pull some brotherhood crap and I told him to knock it off and accept my answer. Obviously he hates that. My wife said she'd have no problem if Gem apologized and actually stopped with her comments and she's glad I told Aidan what Gem needed to do. Aidan keeps telling me I was a d**k and could've done more.. AITA?

This family feud is a spicy stew of jealousy and misplaced loyalty, with Gem’s rudeness burning bridges faster than a match on dry grass. The man’s refusal to advocate for her is a masterclass in prioritizing his wife, who’s weathered 18 years of family love, over his brother’s plea for a free pass. Gem’s fixation on the wife’s bond with mom screams insecurity, but her mean-spirited jabs dug her own isolation. Dr. Susan Forward, a family dynamics expert, says, “Toxic behavior thrives when accountability is dodged” (source).

In-law tensions are no rarity—35% of families report friction with new spouses (source). Gem’s refusal to apologize, coupled with Aidan’s guilt-tripping, shifts the burden onto the family, not her. Her jealousy likely stems from feeling overshadowed, but that’s no excuse for targeting the wife.

Forward’s wisdom points to action: Gem needs to own her mistakes with a sincere apology, perhaps after therapy to unpack her triggers. The man’s stance is spot-on, but he could nudge Aidan to guide Gem toward amends, keeping the door ajar without compromising his wife’s peace. For readers, how do you handle a family member’s bad vibes? The family might try a mediated sit-down, but Gem’s got to step up first. Until then, the man’s loyalty to his wife is a beacon of standing firm without scorching the family tree.

Here’s the input from the Reddit crowd:

Reddit’s crew dove into this drama like it’s a family reunion gone rogue, tossing out zingers and cheers with equal gusto. Picture a backyard debate where everyone’s got a hot take on Gem’s attitude, from clapping for the man’s backbone to roasting Aidan’s dodge. Here’s the unfiltered pulse, crackling with wit and truth.

Independent_Newt5068 − NTA. You’re absolutely right—Gem created this situation, and it’s on *her* to fix it. Nobody is obligated to include someone who has been consistently rude, especially when she hasn’t even apologized. Your wife gave a fair and reasonable condition:

if Gem truly wants to be included, she should own up to her behavior and make amends. Aidan trying to guilt-trip you into advocating for his wife instead of holding her accountable isn’t fair. Brotherhood doesn’t mean enabling bad behavior, and you’re prioritizing your wife, as you should. If he wants things to change, he should be having this conversation with *Gem*, not you.

facinationstreet − *He told me someone our side needs to try or Gem will feel like she's wasting her time* So, Gem wants to put in zero effort to atone for her s**tty attitude, she expects everyone else to grovel at her feet and she *also* expects everyone to believe she's 'changed' and 'realized' her mistakes. Got it.. NTA.

ProjectPhoenix9226 − The first thing that Gem needs to do is to SINCERELY apologize for her bad behaviour. If she can't even do that, then why should anyone give her the time of day? They'd be the ones wasting their time and not her, if Gem can't even put in the effort.  All this shows is that Gem hasn't changed and doesn't deserve another chance.

Sure, she's feeling left out, but that is the consequence of her actions. She got herself into this situation and she is the only one who can get herself out.  I'm sure if your wife was the one who was being left out, then Gem wouldn't even care - in fact, that's what she would have wanted all along, but everyone turned against her instead. That's what you call karma. 

CarsonJX − Congratulations to the women who were smart enough to cut out the bitter joy-k**ler from their midst. Too bad your brother didn't figure out how to do it before he married her. NTA

angellareddit − You are not the a**hole. You are doing what you shoud. However, if your brother brings it up again just tell him to tell his wife that your wife is waiting for an apology. Give him the exact step she needs to take to open the door as per your wife's words.

LovelyBunnyyy_ − NTA. Respect goes both ways—your brother’s wife can’t expect kindness while serving up attitude. If she wants to be included, maybe she should start by being decent to your wife. Crazy concept, I know. 🙃

Srvntgrrl_789 − NTA.. Gem brought all this on herself. She needs to be her own advocate.

AdAccomplished6870 − FA. FA. FA. FA. FO

Conscious_Toe_6947 − Has Gem ever thought about apologizing? It usually goes a long way...

RGM429 − NTA. It sounds like Gem isn't close to her mom, hence her jealousy of your wife's relationship with your mom. However, Gem does have an unrealistic comparison; you & your family have known your wife for 18 years. That's a lot of history.

She knew from the onset that she'll never be as close due to that huge gap, hence her jealousy. That's not to excuse her behavior, of course. I honestly think she might be well served to have some therapy; it could help her sort out her issues, and then she might be able to try & be a part of the family better.. But you are right in that your loyalty is to your wife first.

These Redditors aren’t holding back, saluting loyalty or demanding Gem’s apology. But do their spicy takes catch the full shade of family dynamics, or are they just loving the karma? One thing’s sure—this clash of hearts and egos has the crowd buzzing.

This sizzling saga leaves us chewing on a big question: how do you keep family peace when someone’s tossing shade? The man’s stand for his wife is a bold move, but it risks a deeper divide with his brother. Gem’s got a chance to mend fences, but only if she swallows her pride. Ever had to freeze out a rude relative or push for accountability? Spill your stories below—let’s unpack this family firestorm and figure out where forgiveness and fairness meet!

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