AITA for refusing to pay my girlfriends dowry?

Imagine jetting off to a rural village in Henan, China, ready to win over your fiancée’s parents, only to be slapped with a jaw-dropping demand: fork over $120,000 to seal the deal. For one American man, this wasn’t just a cultural curveball—it felt like a straight-up shakedown. The air in that modest family home crackled with tension as tradition clashed with principle, leaving him wondering if he’s the bad guy for saying no.

This Reddit saga dives into a whirlwind of love, cultural expectations, and a hefty price tag. The man, deeply in love with his Chinese girlfriend, faces her parents’ sky-high dowry demand—ten times her sister’s. His refusal stirs family drama, but his fiancée stands by him. Readers are hooked, debating tradition versus fairness in this cross-cultural romance gone awry.

AITA for refusing to pay my girlfriends dowry?’

I am white and my girlfriend is Chinese. I met her in college while she was studying here, and continued dating after she graduated and got her green card. I recently proposed to her and she said yes, but said I would need to ask her parents for permission before we get married.

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She also explained that it’s tradition that the groom pay the brides family a dowry in the form of a lump sum of cash.. Note: her sisters dowry was 80,000 RMB (~12,000 USD).So we travel to Henan province to her home village and I ask her parents. Having looked up before hand online, I was expecting to pay a dowry of anywhere between 50,000 - 150,000. They end up **demanding** I pay 800,000 RMB (~120,000 USD).

The thing is, I’m successful and can definitely afford this amount of money. I would happily give away 120K to marry my girlfriend, however what angered me is the fact they were clearly asking for this much simply because I’m a foreigner. As I said, her sisters dowry was 1/10th of that.

There was no way I could decline this without pissing off her family, so I just declined as politely as possible and left. This initially upset my girlfriend thinking I valued the money more than her - but after reassuring her it was a matter of respect she said she understood and agreed her parents were trying to take advantage of me for being a foreigner.

So as you’d expect, my girlfriends entire family things I’m an a**hole foreigner shitting over their culture/tradition. But to me, I simply resent being taken advantage of, and was happy to pay the normal amount. My girlfriend and I would end up supporting them anyway as it’s chinese tradition. Why on earth should I pay them a crap load of money on top of that?. AITA?

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Navigating cultural traditions in a relationship can feel like walking a tightrope over a family feud. This groom-to-be’s refusal of an 800,000 RMB dowry—wildly inflated compared to his fiancée’s sister’s 80,000 RMB—screams of principle over pocketbook. The parents’ demand, likely inflated due to his foreigner status, suggests a test of wealth or control, not respect. His fiancée’s support shows they’re united, but her family’s outrage paints him as the villain disrespecting tradition.

This situation highlights the clash of cultural expectations in intercultural relationships. The groom sees the dowry as a bride price, not a gesture of goodwill, especially when inflated tenfold. As The Atlantic notes, China’s bride price tradition, though fading in urban areas, persists in rural regions, often burdening grooms. A 2022 study found 74% of Chinese marriages involved some form of bride price, averaging 139,000 RMB in rural areas (per China Daily).

Dr. William Jankowiak, an anthropologist specializing in Chinese culture, notes, “Bride prices often reflect family status or economic opportunism, not just tradition” . Here, the parents’ demand seems less about custom and more about cashing in. The groom’s refusal, backed by his fiancée, sets a boundary against exploitation. Couples facing similar issues should negotiate openly, perhaps offering a reasonable sum (like 150,000 RMB) to honor tradition without bending to greed.

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Take a look at the comments from fellow users:

The Reddit squad jumped in with gusto, dishing out support and spicy takes like they’re at a cultural cook-off. They roasted the parents’ greed and cheered the groom’s backbone. Here’s the raw scoop from the crowd:

hctibdab − NTA, but I say this with a skewed perspective because I could never imagine having to pay to marry someone I love. Its fucked up to me, but it's also someone's cultural tradition, so I'm not sure if my opinion means much and I am sorry for coming across as ignorant if this is offensive in any way.

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icanbingewatchit − NTA. 1) That's not a dowry, that's a bride price. 2)  They were totally disrespecting you 3) And oh so most importantly: It's fundamentally gross to buy another human being (which is what a bride price is, let's not kid around here) I'm not sure how you should handle this situation, but definitely talk with your girlfriend/fiancée about this and make sure your (plural you) decision is made and presented as a united front.

m3owm1xx − Absolutely NTA - this is a very rare tradition in China now and even so that amount is crazy stupid. It's more common nowadays for the parents to ask you to provide a house (and car) before you get married. I'm married to a Chinese from mainland China (we live there together now) and he agrees with me.

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He said that girl's family is obviously trying to rip you off and you shouldn't pay it. Offer to buy her a house or a car in your home country but absolutely don't give them that money. They are absolutely using you as a retirement fund.

My husband also said that if you refuse the dowry and your girlfriend threatens to break up with you, he is 100% sure the parents will come begging you to marry her after some time. Most parents are absolutely thrilled their child is marrying a foreigner, it's viewed as a sign of being elite.. 你不要给他们钱吧。

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SuccessfulOwl − NTA -. Your girlfriend is choosing to marry a westerner. Westerners don’t pay dowry’s. It’s not your culture.. And sure as f**k don’t pay massively inflated ones they’ve just made up to take advantage.. Learn how to say f**k off in their language so you can show you’re making an effort.

wishgrinder − NTA and really just because something is tradition that doesn't make it good or right. You're paying her parents for the rights to a human being because in that culture she's seen as having less agency as a man.

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yournanna − NTA. You shouldn't have to buy a woman off her family anyway, she's a person not an object.

I_like_booty25 − NTA. Dude her parents are demanding freaking Shanghai prices in Henan province? I would have refused to pay on principle of that matter that if she can't stand up to her parents now and marry who she wants, you're going to have a seriously bad time with the inlaws. If your gf is willing to marry you without the dowry, keep her. If she insists on the dowry run like hell.

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SingularityMechanics − NTA.. [You can skip this paragraph if you just want my advice/info and go to the next one]. Let me start with I can't believe I'm actually going to weigh in on this topic, I'd never have thought it would be something I'd deal with,

or was still a thing nearly anywhere except maybe a few under-developed countries (China is developed for sure and my girlfriend is Chinese too, I'm of Jewish [white] ethnicity).  I'm going to have to ask her about it in general in the morning, but I'm sure her family doesn't do that.

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Also, as a side note, do you know how much trouble it is to transfer that much money into/out of China? Anything over USD $50,000 per year is a nightmare, even between parents and children. Anyway, this isn't about me so..... [Actual advice & questions] If you're willing to accept paying a dowry,

and know the traditional amounts, I would offer the high end of that, or possibly just over (maybe 200,000 RMB). While 'negotiating' may seem in poor taste, they may be trying to see what you're made of, if you really understand the culture, and if you both value her highly but also have a backbone to not be taken advantage of.

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What does your girlfriend (fiancé still I hope) think? Is it acceptable to have someone handle said negotiations? Will she marry you even if her parents don't give their blessing (and what are the ramifications of that for her and you both)?. Good luck man, I can tell this will be complicated no matter what.. Edit: formatting, etc.

harder_said_hodor − NTA. I get that it's important to build up a good relationship with Chinese in-laws but I think it's important you realize that in her parents eyes building up a good relationship with you probably means you following traditional chinese norms for the rest of your life

My wife is also Chinese. Her family, while mostly nice people, were an absolute disaster at the beginning. Trying to placate them tended to make everything much much worse because it would lead to higher demands. The demands always came from a place of 'respecting Chinese culture' or 'this is China' logic.

If you don't take a stand this is not going to magically end with the dowry. If you give in on this then you'll be annoyed to have kids, then they will offer to move in to help with the kid etc. If that is what you want then go for it.

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My advice would be to prolong the engagement for as long as possible. This will tarnish your GF in her parents eyes as she will be living with a foreigner presumably during this time. Then, in a few years they will probably be incredibly eager for the two of you to get married ASAP and drop a ton of the b**lshit. Worked for me and my wife and also set pretty clear boundaries early on

Zeuabolt − I live in India and dowry is extremely frowned upon but still happens. It does happen the other way around here in a way that the bride's family pays the groom. I think you should just avoid paying a 'dowry' at all if you can because essentially you are buying your girlfriend.

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These hot takes rally behind the groom, but are they missing the cultural nuance or spot-on about fairness?

This groom’s stand against an outrageous dowry is a tale of love tested by tradition and greed. By refusing to pay, he’s not just saving money—he’s setting boundaries for a relationship built on mutual respect. His fiancée’s support is the real win, proving their bond can weather family storms. Yet, the clash leaves lingering questions about balancing culture and fairness. Have you faced a cultural expectation that felt unfair? How would you handle this dowry dilemma? Share below!

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