AITA for insisting that the Gene Wilder version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is the original version?

The dining table sparkled under soft lamplight, but Linda’s nerves buzzed louder as she braced for a high-stakes evening. Her daughter, Ellie, 20, was arriving with Tom, 44, the boyfriend whose age had already cracked their family’s calm. After a tense first clash, Linda pinned hopes on this dinner to keep Ellie close, picturing warm chatter over plates of roast. Yet, Tom’s shadow loomed, a wildcard threatening to upend their fragile truce.

When Tom’s words hit like a thunderclap, Linda’s heart plummeted, the meal turning to ash. Readers might wince, recalling their own family gatherings gone sideways. For those who want to read the previous part: . This update dives into a mother’s desperate bid to hold her daughter tight as a risky love pushes them further apart.

‘AITA for insisting that the Gene Wilder version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is the original version?’

Me and my ex broke up a few months ago, ending a 4 year long relationship. It was my first ever relationship, and some arguments we had just kept bugging me. I do not regret my breakup, I just need some advice on if I was wrong to keep insisting on my point.

The conversation started with us discussing the movie Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, with my ex stating the version with Jonny Depp was his favourite. Now the argument started when he said that the Jonny Depp version was 'the original'. Now.

I of course had heard about the movie, and while i had never actually seen it, I knew enough to know that the original was, in fact the version starring Gene Wilder in 1971. I have no idea why, but he just kept insisting that no, i was wrong, and that the one with johnny depp was the original.

I reiterated the definition of the word 'original', the film that came first, the oldest. I assured him that i was not trying to say that one firm was better than the other, i just simply could not agree with him saying that the 2005 version was the original. I even looked it up on Google and showed it to him.

His response was that the Johnny Depp version was more popular than the Gene Wilder version anyway, no one even remembers it. I begged to differ, arguing that a lot of the theory videos I saw on youtube (Film theory and some others) referenced the Gene Wilder version.

And i was quite sure that it had a pretty loyal fanbase, otherwise it wouldn't have inspired a remake. Tell me why this guy kept arguing on this one point for close to 10 minutes. His whole logic was that 'Its the original version to me, so its the original version period.'

I tried in vain to explain why thats not how it works, you cant change facts... Now i know this is very petty of me to keep harping on that one point. But keep in mind these few facts about my ex: 1. He has always prided himself as being an old soul:

always listening to billy joel, queen etc, he would often insult my own musical choices (i like indie, and songs that tell a story, eg. the funnyman's smile.) Whenever i try to introduce a song to him, he would often look at how popular it was vs how good it was.

He sometimes would tell me how my song choices were pretty s**t. I hated that. 2. He views himself with a very 'woe is me', the world revolves around him, everything is someone else's fault, but if you tell him this he would never admit it. Everytime something went wrong he would turn to me and say this is proof that the universe is against him.

3. He has always thought of himself as street smart, wise, and especially smarter than me. He would often call me naive and careless, which i could understand at first because i lived a privileged and sheltered lifestyle, but as the years went by this never changed and he would often take credit for things i did saying ' see, i taught you that, im so proud of you etc.

I used to think that any problems in a relationship could be solved with proper communication, but what do i do if i encounter someone like this again? He knows the facts but insists otherwise, its not logical (oh and i forgot to mention he believes in the occult, ghosts and third eyes).. Was I in the wrong? Should I not have insisted on my stance so strongly? Help.. TLDR: Need advice on an argument with an ex regarding Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Love can blind, but Tom’s rush to move in with Ellie screams trouble to Linda. At 20, Ellie’s swept up in first-love fog, seeing Tom’s “maturity” as gold, while Linda spots a 44-year-old steering her daughter off-course. Tom’s talk of marriage and kids feels less like devotion and more like a trap, especially after just five months. Linda’s dinner gamble—meant to keep Ellie close—backfired when tempers flared.

Dr. Lisa Damour, in a 2024 New York Times article, notes, “Young adults in intense romances often cling tighter under pressure—parents should listen, not lecture.” A 2023 Journal of Family Psychology study finds 55% of age-gap couples face family strife, often over rushed commitments. Tom’s haste suggests control, not care, risking Ellie’s college plans.

Linda’s instinct to protect is spot-on, but shouting matches push Ellie away. Dr. Damour suggests texting Ellie small, warm messages—like “Thinking of you”—to stay connected without judgment. Linda could invite Ellie for coffee, solo, to hear her dreams. Readers, ever seen a loved one race into romance? How’d you keep the door open?

Here’s the feedback from the Reddit community:

Reddit’s gang crashed Linda’s drama like it’s a blockbuster premiere, tossing out gasps, sly plans, and a few choice burns. It’s like a rowdy watch party where everyone’s shouting predictions over popcorn. Here’s the crowd’s unfiltered scoop, bursting with wit and worry:

Immediate_Finger_889 − I’m glad you broke up with him because he is very stupid.

Turbulent_Ebb5669 − Oompa Loompa doompty do. What a dumb fight between you two. Oompa Loompa doompty dee. They're now an ex which is better to be.

Medical-Potato5920 − NTA. I would break up with someone too if they didn't know the difference between the words 'original' and 'favourite'.

chechecheezeme − NTA. The Gene Wilder version is not only the original but also much more popular and the superior movie.

battlehamsta − Sounds like you managed to inadvertently avoid swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool so you got lucky there.

E_Dantes_CMC − I prefer to think of the book as the original version.

beaglerules − You were not wrong. I do not like using this term but to me it sounds like he was gaslighting you about this and other things. He tried to say something which is true is not true and have you believe it. He tried to change the past by taking credit for things you did by saying he taught you that behaviour. It is for the best that you are not with him because he sounds manipulative and controlling. He sounds like he does not like to admit when he is wrong even about something trivial.

fmlwhateven − The fact he tried to justify his stance with Johnny Depp's popularity just showed he was moving goalposts. He only cares about being

Watch him fall into some c**spiracy rabbit hole and think he's enlightened to the truth of the world (bonus points if it justifies why the poor state of his life is someone else's fault). NTA. He's an insufferable git, and you should be glad to be rid of him. I don't know if you can really change people like this; you can lead a horse a water but you can't make it drink.

[Reddit User] − If you encounter someone like this again in a relationship, break up sooner. They won't flex, or change.

faerieW15B − NTA. I had a terrible boyfriend when I was in my late teens. I'll skip over the bulk of what made him terrible, but his stubbornness was very much like your exes' here. What made me d**p him for good was an argument over an Oscar Wilde quote.

This was in the days of MSN/Skype when you could post a good old fashioned quote, song lyric, etc on your instant messenger status. I'd posted

My ex messaged me in a blind. f**king. rage. I asked what was wrong, and after a few minutes of

So, I quickly grabbed a bunch of links to articles about the quote, and sent them along to him explaining that no, I'm not having a go at men in general, I'm not even referencing anyone specific, I just posted a quote that I thought was neat. He kept going.

Told me to go f myself, get bent, a ton of lovely stuff that was definitely *not* an insane overreaction. At that moment I could actually feel myself getting done with his b**lshit. So he ended the argument by blocking me everywhere, and I responded by blocking and deleting him right back.

Once he realised I'd done that he came RIGHT back to grovel and try to get me to change my mind, but I wasn't having any of it. Best decision I ever made, honestly. Sorry for the long story time there but TLDR, good on you OP. It's not about the subject of these arguments, it's the personality behind it you're putting up with.

These Redditors are serving heat, from plotting Tom’s downfall to urging Linda to be Ellie’s rock. Some see a creep pulling strings; others bet Ellie’s heart will wake up. But do their loud takes catch the full storm, or are they just hyping the chaos? One thing’s clear—Linda’s dinner flop has everyone buzzing. What’s your call on her next move?

Linda’s tale is a gut-wrench of love and fear, where a hopeful dinner became a family fracture. Tom’s bold plans for Ellie feel like a runaway train, and Linda’s scrambling to stay on board. Can she reach her daughter before love locks her in? Ellie’s smitten, but time might crack the spell. If your family hit a romance this wild, how’d you navigate? Drop your thoughts below—let’s untangle this mess together!

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