AITA for arguing with my SIL and telling her that being jealous and controlling will always make her second best?

In a family still reeling from the loss of a beloved mother, a woman stood up for her late best friend’s legacy against her brother’s new wife, Dani. When Dani demanded the children forget their deceased mom and embrace her instead, tensions boiled over into a fiery confrontation. Accused of disloyalty for staying close to her friend’s family, the woman snapped, telling Dani her jealousy ensures she’ll always be “second best.” This Reddit saga asks: was her blunt truth too harsh?

This story resonates with anyone protecting a loved one’s memory amid family conflict. Reddit rallies behind her, but did her words cut too deep? Let’s unpack this emotional clash, explore expert insights, and hear the community’s take.

‘AITA for arguing with my SIL and telling her that being jealous and controlling will always make her second best?’

My brother was married to my best friend Elle for a decade. They had two children together. Milo who is 8 and Piper who is 7. Elle was diagnosed with cancer 3 years ago and passed away almost a year later. The kids were 5 and 6 years old. My brother met Dani after a few months and began dating her soon after.

He and Elle's family had a big falling out because he told them he was hoping Dani would take their mom's place and that they would embrace her as their new mom and he wanted Elle's family to take a backseat so that could happen.

They asked how he could erase Elle and he told them she's dead and he and the kids aren't and he didn't want them holding a candle for a dead mother the rest of their lives while they could have a living one. When they told him they loved the kids too much to disappear he told them he could maybe arrange a phone call every Christmas.

They decided to take him to court and were granted grandparents visitation as the judge saw it in the best interest of the kids so they would maintain a relationship they already had with their deceased mother's family. My brother and I also had a strained relationship because he also tried to get me to erase Elle.

Onto Dani. She and my brother married a few months ago and hates Elle's family. She has accused them of caring more about themselves and Elle than the kids because they denied them a more whole family. She visibly shows annoyance when the kids mention Elle.

She blamed me when the kids told her they weren't going to call her mom (she and my brother asked if they would and the kids weren't interested). She was also unhappy they spent Mother's Day with Elle's family and not her and even told the kids. Not too long ago she confronted me and said my contact with Elle's family sends the kids the wrong message, and that I clearly have a favorite SIL which isn't fair.

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I told her Elle was my best friend since we were 4. Her family and I are close and of course we remained close when she married my brother. Dani told me I need to stop seeing them or else. She told me she is tired of being second best and not being chosen by the kids. She said they don't even try to let her in.

We argued and I told her that her being jealous and controlling will always make her second best unless she learns to embrace that she did come after Elle in our lives. She lost it and my brother told me my loyalty should be with him and Dani over Elle's family. He also told me I was insensitive with Dani. AITA?

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This family feud exposes the raw pain of grief clashing with new relationships. Dr. Pauline Boss, a grief expert, notes in Ambiguous Loss that “when a loved one dies, their memory remains a vital part of family identity; erasing it can harm children’s emotional health.” Dani’s push to replace Elle, the children’s late mother, and her brother’s support of this disregards the kids’ need to mourn. The woman’s sharp rebuke—calling Dani “second best”—stems from defending the children’s right to remember their mom, though its delivery stoked conflict.

The tension lies in competing roles: Dani seeks to be the primary maternal figure, while the woman and Elle’s family preserve Elle’s legacy. Forcing children to suppress grief, as a 2021 study in the Journal of Child Psychology found, can lead to resentment and estrangement, especially when stepparents demand instant loyalty. The brother’s attempt to limit Elle’s family’s access further risks the kids’ stability.

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Dr. Boss advises fostering open dialogue about loss to integrate new family members without erasing the past. The woman could encourage her brother to prioritize the kids’ feelings, perhaps through family therapy. For others, supporting children’s memories while setting boundaries with pushy stepparents can prevent escalation.

Take a look at the comments from fellow users:

The Reddit crew unleashed a torrent of outrage and wit, dissecting this stepmother’s overreach. Here’s what they had to say:

Suspicious_Lemon9960 - NTA It's giving 'I have moved on and the fact that my kids won't also totally erase dead wife from their lives is pretty f**king inconvenient for me tbh'. Like who the actual f**k says things like he wants the new girlfriend to REPLACE their mother, he doesn't want the dead wive's family to see the kids, and he doesn't want his kids 'Holding a candle for a dead mother when they could have a living one.'. Disgusting.

According_Fox_2460 - Nta the judge is at least seeing clearly. It's absolutely horrible what they are trying to do. I would just try to continue to support your nieces. Are your parents around? Could they maybe talk to your brother?

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Key-Raise9268 - NTA. your brother and Dani are the AH it is horrible that the children have lost their mother but it is even worse that they try to erase her, that is not healthy for them it should be considered psychological abuse to make them give up the memory of their mother like that and love a stranger,

because that is what Dani is, plus she seems like the evil stepmother forcing them to love her, she would do better if she tried to be more like a friend or an aunt. By the way, by Dani's behavior, if she gets to have her own children it will be the end for your nieces and nephews.

FaithNeverDiesAway - NTA. I read so many of these posts where a step parent is shoved down a kids throat when a parent has died. They will end up loosing their kids over this due to resentment. The best thing you can do is be there for the kids as they have to deal with this crap on top of the loss of thier mom.

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sundancerkb - NTA. This woman sounds like a cartoon villain. Did your brother marry Meredith Blake from The Parent Trap?

embopbopbopdoowop - “She said they don’t even try to let her in.” Because she keeps FORCING her way in.. So very much NTA. Dani isn’t the biggest AH here though. Your brother is. All he and Dani are doing is guaranteeing that as soon as the kids are old enough to move out, they’ll never see them again.

I also want to add that in terms of AHness here, it’s not actually relevant that Elle was your best friend and that you’re still close to her family. They’re trying to erase the kids’ mother. They’d be AHs even if you’d never liked Elle in the first place.. I’m sorry for your loss. And those kids. Those poor kids.

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ColdstreamCapple - NTA. As I’m reading about your brother I’m thinking “This guy needs to be in therapy and now”. But the fact he met Dani who then encouraged him to erase all memory of Elle with the kids says a LOT about her character

I’m seriously scared for your nephew and niece, surrounded by a dad who can’t express his grief in a rational way and a woman who so coldly embodies the role of wicked stepmother so perfectly that it’s going to have drastic consequences

Although not ideal you may have to get child services involved because I worry what Dani may do when you’re not around Let the kids know they always have a safe space to talk to you anonymously and keep advocating for their welfare. I seriously hope all works out for you

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ParsimoniousSalad - NTA. Your brother and Dani have pretty much done everything wrong here. The kids are going to grow up and stop talking to them.

Drplaguebites - What in the actual loving f**k is wrong with your brother?! my god you are NTA he is sitting up those children for a life time of pain. He needs help now

CasTheMagicDragon - How would he feel if the situation was reversed and he was no longer here? Would he want Elle to be doing this to the kids? Would he be fine with his existence completely erased?

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These fiery takes slam Dani and the brother’s callousness, but do they miss the kids’ quiet pain? The brother’s loyalty demand adds a twist—family ties or control?

This saga of grief and control shows how fiercely families guard a loved one’s memory. The woman’s jab at Dani’s jealousy was a raw defense of her friend’s children, but was it too brutal? Should she mend fences for the kids’ sake, or hold firm against erasure? How do you balance new family ties with honoring the past? Drop your stories and thoughts in the comments—let’s keep this heartfelt debate alive!

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