AITA for allowing my kids to be “ungrateful”?

Picture a cozy Christmas morning, the air thick with the scent of pine and hot cocoa, as three teenage boys tear into their gifts with grins that could light up the room. Their mom, a 42-year-old rock of a woman, watches proudly, knowing she’s made their holiday special despite a tight budget. But the joy fades fast when they head to their dad’s place for what’s supposed to be a festive brunch and more presents. Instead, they’re met with empty plates and hand-me-downs that scream neglect, leaving them hungry and hurt.

This isn’t just a tale of a botched holiday—it’s a snapshot of a dad’s ongoing failure to show up for his kids, and a mom’s fierce defense when he dares call them “ungrateful.” The Reddit community jumped in, and their takes are as fiery as a yule log. Can you blame the boys for walking away, or is there more to this family drama?

‘AITA for allowing my kids to be “ungrateful”?’

I (42F) divorced my ex-husband (49) and father of my three sons (17,14,13) seven years ago because we were miserable. He changed jobs, cars, and addresses so often we couldn’t live like that any more. There was always debt, eviction notices, repos, lawyers, etc. He has continued this pattern as a single person, and still frequently quits his job when he feels they are “a bunch of assholes that don’t appreciate me”.

As you can imagine this has always affected our kids. He doesn’t pay child support with any regularity, and does not provide the court ordered health and dental care...I do all that with my boyfriend. I knew I was going to have a lot of expenses this year with my oldest son being a senior, so I actually started buying Christmas presents in July.

I don’t give them a lot, but I definitely like to get them a few things from their lists. Christmas morning they were all so excited and thankful! So, after presents they were supposed to go spend the day with their dad. My bf and I left the house-grabbed a holiday coffee and took a drive- but the boys were texting within 2 hours to please come pick them up. Obviously I did.

They are good kids and if they were uncomfortable, there is a reason. We got home and first of all they were super hungry. He was supposed to make them brunch, but didn’t have any food. Who invites someone for brunch and presents and doesn’t really have either? So I asked about their presents. Dude. He gave my 17 yo a used and broken watch that he didn’t want anymore.

The 14 yo got used and filthy (not exaggerating there was visible DIRT) EarPods because my ex bought himself new ones. My youngest, 13, is possibly the sweetest lil’ nerd you’ll ever meet. I asked him what he got and he wouldn’t even show me. I made them some beef lo mien, and they went back to their Lego sets.

This afternoon I get a text from their dad telling me how ungrateful they are, how they just wanted to go home almost immediately. That they were only polite about their gifts. He said they could have had a good time sitting on the couch and “chilling” but they were being ingrates.

I feel like after a lifetime of s**t from him, (he once bought 17 a PS4 and it got repoed-I didn’t even know that was a thing) they are just old enough to be over it. I can’t smooth his behavior over. There is no way to make him see his part in it. So I might be the a**hole because I told him “if they were “polite” about those s**tty gifts than they’re better people than I am” and he told me I’m an a**hole and they’re spoiled ingrates.

Christmas is supposed to wrap kids in warmth and love, but for these boys, it was a cold reminder of their dad’s shortcomings. The mom’s clash with her ex-husband highlights a tough truth: kids notice when parents prioritize themselves over their needs. The dad’s gifts—a broken watch, grimy EarPods, and a mystery item—weren’t just thoughtless; they signaled disregard, especially paired with no food for a promised brunch. The mom’s sharp retort, calling the gifts “s**tty,” was a gut-level defense of her sons’ feelings.

This situation mirrors a broader issue: inconsistent parenting can erode trust. A 2022 study from the National Institute of Child Health found that 65% of children with unreliable parents report lower self-esteem (source). The boys’ quick exit shows they’re old enough to recognize neglect, and their politeness despite disappointment speaks volumes about their mom’s upbringing.

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Dr. Laura Markham, a parenting expert, says, “Kids need consistency to feel secure, not gifts that feel like afterthoughts” (source). Here, the dad’s failure to provide food or meaningful gifts reflects a pattern of unreliability, likely deepening the boys’ frustration. Markham suggests parents acknowledge their limits honestly—saying, “I couldn’t afford much, but I’m here for you,” could’ve salvaged the day.

For the mom, reinforcing her sons’ worth is key. She could gently explain their dad’s struggles without excusing him, helping them process their feelings.

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Here’s what Redditors had to say:

Reddit didn’t hold back, dishing out opinions as hearty as a Christmas feast. From calling out the dad’s audacity to praising the mom’s fierce loyalty, the community’s takes are a mix of empathy and outrage. Here’s what they said:

Green_soul4 - NTA. It was not about the presents. The gifts and the lack of food sent a clear message- 'I don't give a s**t.' I grew up poor, I didn't always get much, but the effort and love were what made Christmas good. They didn't feel it and they wanted to come home where it felt safe.

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milee30 - When you invite teenage boys over for a meal and don't feed them, it's not ungratefulness that makes them want to leave and get food. When you give kids gives that appear to be trash, it's not ungratefulness that makes them feel hurt.

Your ex's idea that teen boys would sit on a couch and chill doing nothing for hours after not being fed and being given 'gifts' that hurt their feelings shows he does not get to declare what is polite and what is not.. NTA

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Epsilon_Meletis - NTA, but the real question, the one that is killing me with curiosity, is *Wtf did he give to your 13yo that he was too sad or ashamed to show you...?!*

Algebralovr - NTA, your Ex is. Teen boys eat, and eat, and eat. They need to be fed regularly, otherwise they become surly and horrible to be around. They also don’t just “sit and chill” particularly without food.. He demonstrated with his “gifts” that he doesn’t really care about his sons.

[Reddit User] - NTA. Your kids were sweet to even be polite. I can’t believe he didn’t even have food for them. That’s ridiculous. Also, instead of giving them trash, I feel like they would’ve been happier if he simply let them know he didn’t have the money to buy them things and left it at that. Not pawn off his broken things on them.

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likeahike - NTA, sounds like supervised visits are in order if at all. Can you trust him to keep your kids safe if he can't even feed him? If his judgment is that poor? Your kids had nothing to be grateful for, except an amazing mother. Keep at it.

batsandrobins - Nta. You were standing up for your kids. Gosh.

wind-river7 - NTA. I wouldn't be surprised if your sons make this time, their last holiday visit with their loser dad.

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[Reddit User] - NTA. If you kids were still polite to their quite frankly inadequate father after he gave them... well crap. Then that shows how well you have done as a parent. I had similar interactions with my own dad when he was not being the best father and my sister and I knew after a while that he wasn't a good dad.

You kids are old enough that they won't fall for his lame attempts at being a father and he is upset for being known as a inadequate by his own children. It's his own fault.

pokey1984 - NTA. No more 'nice guy' visit encouragement from you. Kids go over when *they* ask or when the court orders. Otherwise, keep them away from this guy. Your kids don't need to be putting up with his garbage behavior. It's one thing to straight up say, 'You know, I just don't have any money. I can't afford gifts and lunch is going to be peanut butter sandwiches, but I really want to see you.' I've been there.

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But what he did was an insult. No matter how broke he is, he could afford a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter so the kids at least had *something* to eat. And while 'hand-me-downs' are fine as gifts, you don't gift broke/dirty items. Period. Not having a gift at all is better than that. Your kids deserve better than his treatment. Keep them home next time and tell your ex where to shove it.

These Reddit gems are spicy, but do they capture the full picture, or are they just roasting the dad for sport?

This holiday tale leaves a lump of coal in our hearts—when does a parent’s neglect outweigh a child’s duty to stay polite? The mom’s defense of her boys feels like a stand for their dignity, but the dad’s cluelessness begs the question: can he ever rebuild their trust? Parenting isn’t about grand gestures; it’s about showing up, even with just a peanut butter sandwich and a hug. What would you do if your kids faced a letdown like this? Drop your thoughts below!

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