AITA for not serving my BIL before the children, causing a huge family fight?

A sprawling ranch, alive with the chatter of 13 kids and the warmth of a weekly family dinner, turned tense when a new brother-in-law threw a wrench into a cherished tradition. In this tight-knit clan, kids always get their plates first, but Dan, fresh from his honeymoon, demanded men be served before the children, claiming they “slave away” at work. The eldest sister, fed up with his outburst, snapped that he’d eat last if she had her way, igniting a family showdown.

This Reddit story serves up a hearty dose of family drama, pitting tradition against entitlement. The woman’s fierce defense of serving the kids first, backed by her father, clashed with Dan’s push for priority, leaving her wondering if she should’ve just plated his food to keep the peace. Was she wrong to stand her ground, or did Dan’s demands deserve a sharp rebuke? Readers are hooked on this tale of loyalty and table manners.

‘AITA for not serving my BIL before the children, causing a huge family fight?’

I(31f) am the oldest of 7 with ages ranging from 18-31. 6 of us have partners/married. 4 of us have a combined 13 children aging between 2 months and 12 years. Our father is still alive but our mother passed away a year ago.

We are a pretty traditional family in which women stay home to tend to the home and men go out to work. While we have a family ranch where most of us live on the property and we all pitch in. We also have a weekly family dinner at dads house.

I do have to say, because I know someone will bring it up, no, we are not mormon. Now that that's out of the way, I have a new brother in law, Dan(23m). Dan and my sister just recently came back from their honeymoon and have started coming to the family dinners.

Dan, being the great family man he is, refused to come to any of them before marriage. I'm not 100% sure why and I never really cared to know. I can't say I really ever liked him, but he had never done anything to cause it. So, our last family dinner. We don't put all of the food on the table.

We have multiple tables so instead, we fix everyone's plates in the kitchen and everyone comes and grabs it as it's fixed. As such, we alway fix the kids plates first. The first time Dan saw this, he seemed kind of put off by it but didn't say anything. The second time it happened, he spoke up and voiced his frustrations,

saying the men slave away in the heat all day so they should be served first, that they were hungry. MY dad asked him why would a grown man need to eat before his family got fed first. This quickly spiraled into an argument after emotions ran high.

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At one point, I finally yelled for everyone to shut up and sit down before telling Dan that until he was the one serving the food, the kids would eat first and if I had my way, he will be served last at every family event again. The dinner ended pretty quickly after but now I'm starting to wonder if I should have just fixed him a plate to end the arguement.

Family dinners are a sacred ritual for many, but this clash over who eats first reveals deeper tensions about respect and roles. The woman’s family, rooted in traditional gender norms where women manage the home, has long prioritized kids’ plates—a practical choice to keep young ones settled. Dan’s insistence that men, as breadwinners, deserve priority challenges this norm, showing a lack of deference as a newcomer. Her sharp retort, threatening to serve him last, was a defense of both tradition and authority in her father’s home.

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Gender expectations often shape family dynamics. A 2023 study by the Journal of Family Issues found that 45% of traditional families face conflicts when new members challenge established roles (tandfonline.com). Dan’s demand, framed as rewarding men’s labor, dismisses the women’s work in preparing the meal and the kids’ needs, escalating into a power struggle. His silence at the first dinner suggests he stewed on this, choosing confrontation over adaptation.

Sociologist Dr. John Macionis notes, “Family traditions, like serving order, reinforce shared values; disrupting them without consensus breeds resentment” (macionis.com). The woman’s father’s support and her own firm stance upheld the family’s values, but her harsh words may have deepened the rift. Dan’s refusal to respect the host’s rules marks him as the instigator.

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These are the responses from Reddit users:

Reddit’s got a full plate of opinions on this dinner drama, and they’re dishing out support for the woman’s stand! The community slammed Dan’s entitlement and cheered the kids-first tradition.

Legal-Challenge7578 - No OP, you should not have 'just fixed him a plate to end the argument.' Dan shouldn't have started the argument in the first place, especially at your DAD's house, when your DAD has already told him to quit it!  Your response was the right one, including telling Dan that if you had your way, he'd be served last at every family event.. NTA

Revolutionary-Dryad - NTA. Dan is new to the family and wants to demand changes to family traditions without earning the capital to ask for them. He asked, anyway, and in an aggressive way that feels like it bordered on being a demand rather than a request.

He argued and pushed and made a scene, during which he showed disrespect for your father and for the authority of the women in the kitchen, and in your family, the kitchen *is* the women's purview. He didn't do any of the work related to making or serving dinner

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but wanted to change the rules to center himself.. And you stood your ground, as did your father.. You chastised him--mildly--for his lack of manners, lack of respect, and willingness to disrupt the family meal.. How could you possibly be the the a**hole here?

[Reddit User] - 13 kids under 12 and he wants to feed them last? We always feed the sharks, I mean, the kids before getting food for ourselves if we want to eat in peace

jennic1985 - Absolutely NTA, individual families do things differently, but I’ve never been to a family gathering where the kids weren’t served first. Point being, when you’re at your house you do things how you like

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but when you’re at someone else’s house you have got to be a real a**hole to demand things be done the way you want them done. No one wants drama with family but sometimes a wake up call is necessary and it seems like he was in need of a wake up call. P.s love that your dad was team kids!

Dadbeyondtheglass - NTA: Sounds like Dan doesn’t have kids… nobody eats if the kids are hungry. The kids make sure of it for people who don’t know.. If someone is hungry and complaining, I toss them a fruit so they stfu. Children, old folk, woman, man.. that’s the order.

rocking_womble - NTA. '...we always fix the kids plates first'. YOUR family meal, YOUR family's tradition.... BiL is a guest and new to the family & needs to show some respect.. He sounds like an entitled, misogynistic, AH.

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Alamoraine - NTA- sounds like someone left their mind back in the Puritan age. 'Slave away in the heat...' I'd love to know if he even works outside. He needs to stop acting like a big baby, unless that's his motivating for making a case to be fed first with all the other kids.

Worth_Chemist_3361 - NTA. Even your dad shut down his misogyny. Why should you give in 'to keep the peace'? Your BIL should learn how to behave properly in someone else's home. Women are not required to serve men when they have their own 2 hands and legs.

SarkyMs - I am wondering how a man of such traditional manly values dared argue with the family patriarch. Next time he starts anything your father needs to tell him to sit down and shut up he's the head of the family and what he says goes here.

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Dschingis_Khaaaaan - NTA - Dan had no right to come in to a situation that everyone else was comfortable with and demand it change to suit him.  If he had concerns he can discuss them with the other adults at a separate time.  Instead he behaved like the biggest baby in the room. You were right to put him in his place. 

These takes highlight the audacity of disrupting family norms, but do they offer a recipe for harmony, or just spice up the feud?

This woman’s clash with her brother-in-law over dinner plates serves up a lesson in defending family traditions against entitled newcomers. By prioritizing the kids and putting Dan in his place, she upheld her family’s values, but the fallout leaves her second-guessing. A calmer approach might mend fences, but Dan’s demands set the table for conflict. Would you serve a pushy guest last, or plate up to keep the peace? Share your thoughts below!

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