[UPDATE] How should I (30F) handle husband’s bro’s wife (30F) who only addresses my husband (35M)?

In the glow of a family getaway, where laughter and shared meals should knit bonds tighter, a lingering tension festers. A woman, already stung by her sister-in-law Rachel’s habit of addressing only her husband, Mike, hoped a weekend trip with relatives would shift the dynamic. Despite a pre-trip talk with Mike and moments of warmth with Rachel, the same slights persisted—Rachel’s pointed questions to Mike, her insistence he fetch food, all while the woman stood sidelined. For those who want to read the previous part: How should I (30F) handle husband’s bro’s wife (30F) who only addresses my husband (35M)?

Now, resentment simmers as the woman regrets withdrawing from Rachel, yet feels fed up after two years of unheeded kindness. Mike, still oblivious, defends his inaction, leaving her to question her approach and their teamwork. With an apology text sent to Rachel, the woman seeks a path forward, but the trip’s echoes linger. Reddit’s sharp voices dive into this family fray, offering tough love and probing questions.

[UPDATE] How should I (30F) handle husband’s bro’s wife (30F) who only addresses my husband (35M)?’

we had the trip. It was just a short weekend trip, and there were other relatives of our husbands on the trip too. Before the trip, the context was I told Mike I was texting his female cousin about the trip. Then, my husband Mike brought up himself that I should make sure to include Rachel, text Rachel too, etc because she is newer to the family compared to me.

I should make an effort for Rachel to not feel left out. When I questioned why he is telling me that, Mike said that since she is his brother’s wife, it’s important to him that Rachel and I have a good bond since Mike is very close to his brother Steve.

I did ask Mike if I did something to make him say that, but he said no, he just wants me to be close to Rachel since she is Steve’s wife. I took that opportunity to tell him the times that Rachel excluded me and was not nice. Mike listened and said he never realized that was happening.

I told Mike that I want him to step up to include me more, and he said he will. During the trip, when Rachel and I ended up alone, we talked nicely. Sometimes she even came up to me and initiated conversation, and sometimes I did.

Then, during the trip, there were some small similar incidents of the same odd behavior where Rachel addresses only Mike to tell him a story even though I’m also sitting right there and the story was relevant to me too. It seemed like she was just excited to get any opportunity to talk to him and ignore me as if I’m not there.

I then started keeping my distance from Rachel after this incident: the 4 of us ordered food. There is a line to pick up the food. The 4 of us are standing together just waiting. We notice other people getting in line to pick up food.

Rachel says “Mike, can you go in the line to pick up our food?” a few times, as other people are getting in line and the line is growing. She asked Mike 2-3 times and kept moving closer to him. Mike was allowing others to come instead of pushing his way through. She came between Mike and me.

Then I went next to Mike. Then all 4 of us went to the line together. Not sure why she kept insisting that Mike go. She could have asked her husband to go. They all weren’t doing anything else. We ended up all 4 going together. I mostly just found it odd that she kept insisting Mike go but not her own husband.

Steve was just quiet, as usual. Towards the end of the trip, we just kept distance from each other. I admit that as the trip progressed, I resented her from her past actions and small similar incidents she did on the trip, so I started trying to keep my distance from her and not go out of my way to engage with her.

Even though she did it a little on the trip, since it was the 1000th time, I just wanted to try keeping space. And she ended up doing the same too. At the end of the trip, she just waved bye from afar when we were leaving.

Unfortunately, the same problems of Rachel going to Mike, and talking to only Mike in front of me, came up a few times throughout the trip. Mike never realized. In the moment, even I let it slide, but later when I thought about it, I realized how it was odd behavior.

It did not happen very often because there weren’t many opportunities for Rachel to interact with Mike given the large group of relatives on the trip. But the problem is still not resolved. Rachel is still disrespectful, and Mike does not realize when it’s happening.

After the trip, I was angry so I told Mike that because Steve took care of Rachel to include her, and Mike told me I need to include Rachel, then Mike should also include me. I complained to Mike about the times that Mike’s brother took good care of Rachel, and the times Mike did not do the same for me on the trip.

Mike got defensive and also said it’s because he knows I take care of myself. I admit I didn’t handle this situation the best with my husband because I just ended up complaining to him, which made him defend himself. At least he never tried to defend Rachel.

 I admit I didn’t handle this correctly, and I want to do better going forward. I won’t be petty, but I am seeking advice. Not sure when we will see them next. I regret that I stopped engaging with Rachel. I realize now I should have continued to be the usual nice and engaging with her.

But I’m fed up that after 2 years of being nice, nothing is changing. My original post still stands that I don’t want this behavior from Rachel to continue. Someone said I should mention here: we’re American but we come from a culture/religion where it’s disrespectful for married women and men to befriend the opposite s**.

I texted Rachel to apologize. I feel so much better now that she knows there are no ill feelings from me. Thanks to you guys for raising that to my attention that it seems I dislike her. I honestly like her and I wish we had a mutual good relationship. I just don’t like the disrespectful instances.

Rachel’s persistent focus on Mike, even after the woman’s efforts to connect, continues to signal disrespect, whether intentional or habitual. The food line incident—Rachel urging Mike, not her own husband, to act—suggests a boundary issue that disrupts family harmony. Mike’s failure to notice, despite being alerted, and his defensive response post-trip highlight a deeper communication gap in the marriage. The woman’s regret over withdrawing shows self-awareness, but her initial complaint-driven approach may have hindered progress.

Family interactions thrive on clear boundaries. The American Psychological Association notes that 30% of family conflicts arise from unmet expectations. Dr. John Gottman, in a Psychology Today article, stresses, “Partners must act as a team to address external slights.” Rachel’s behavior, possibly tied to cultural norms or personal dynamics, needs addressing, but Mike’s role is pivotal.

This reflects broader challenges in blended families. “In-laws test marital unity,” says therapist Dr. Susan Heitler in a Family Process journal. The woman’s apology to Rachel is a step toward goodwill, but she should now calmly reframe the issue with Mike, emphasizing teamwork (e.g., “When Rachel ignores me, I need you to redirect her to me”). A gentle, in-the-moment call-out to Rachel, like, “Hey, I can help with that!” could shift habits. If patterns persist, limiting contact may be wise.

Here’s what Redditors had to say:

The Reddit squad stormed in like family mediators, dishing out blunt critiques and skeptical takes. It’s like a reunion where everyone’s got a theory and no filter. Here’s the unfiltered pulse:

Embarrassed_Advice59 − Your last paragraph is wild. What did OP learn? Nothing apparently 💀

samse15 − OP, I say this as gently as possible, but please go get therapy. You need someone to unpack these situations with you and give you real-time feedback. You are being *very* unspecific in these comments and no one can really know if Rachel is the problem, or if you are. Maybe a therapist can help you understand what’s actually going on, because I don’t think even you know at this point.

Careless_Welder_4048 − You are 30. The problem is your husband!!! Deal with him, he can’t dismiss your feelings. When Rachel ignores you and talks to Mike, call it out!

WitchofKarma − Wow what did Steve do for Rachel that you feel like Mike should have done for you?

ChickenLatte9 − After reflecting and reading your comments I think this is all jealousy fueled. I don't think it would be resolved if Rachel talked to you. I think you simply don't want her to exist. You're jealous that she and your husband have a friendly relationship.

You're jealous that Rachel's husband obviously dotes on and does things for her. You're just jealous that she is now a member of your family. It's odd that you have simply refused to speak up and address this head on. Even odder that you want your husband to address it, like you want him to cut her off.

I'm beginning to think you're an unreliable narrator and that you have created an issue that everyone else is responding to. Interesting that your husband pleaded with you to be nicer to her, interesting indeed.

fetanose − When she comes up to both of you and only addresses mike, can't you just say in that moment 'hi Rachel, nice to see you' or add to the conversation? Like if she walks up to both of you and says 'hi Mike' say 'hi Rachel!' back. And also point it out to your husband immediately after that she's only addressed him. Her behavior is weird.

I_am_wood_dog − But next time, I have to be petty. Whenever Rachel does it, I need to immediately do the same to her husband. This is such a petty, negative way of trying to solve an issue. Your marriage will probably not last if you do this.

glamazon_69 − You sound unhinged. In a weekend that was a big group you were focused exclusively on one person so it’s normal you see patterns when it’s all you’re looking for. Get help.

ThatsItImOverThis − Your solution is childish and not a solution at all. Tit for tat is not how grown ups communicate. They communicate by expressing themselves through words. Written or spoken, take your pick.. But escalation is not a solution and even a child should know that.

robxxx − 30? Could have sworn this was a teenager. Grow up ffs.

These Redditors split sharply—some see the woman’s frustration as valid, others brand her focus on Rachel as obsessive or jealous. Their debate probes whether Rachel’s actions are deliberate or if the woman’s lens distorts the narrative. Do their harsh judgments clarify or cloud the issue? One thing’s certain: this update has Reddit dissecting motives with fervor.

This trip’s fallout underscores how subtle slights can fester, testing both family ties and marital unity. The woman’s efforts to bridge the gap with Rachel falter against persistent disrespect, while Mike’s inaction deepens her isolation. Her apology opens a door, but without Mike’s support, the cycle may continue. How do you break a pattern of being sidelined in your own family? Share your stories or advice in the comments—let’s unravel this tangled dynamic together.

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