AITA for telling my 17 year old she needs to go to her volunteer job and not “no call-no show” for a third time?

Picture a Sunday morning, the kind where coffee’s brewing and plans are soft—until a teen’s oversleeping sparks a showdown. For one mom, her 17-year-old daughter’s decision to skip her volunteer job wasn’t just about a missed shift; it was a flare-up of deeper tensions. This girl, trusted with freedom—no curfew, bar nights, even a wild house party—rarely hears “no” at home.

But when Mom drew a line, urging her to honor a commitment tied to college dreams, the response was a verbal fireball: accusations of control, ugly names, and threats to cut ties. Parenting’s a tightrope—too loose, and kids might unravel; too tight, and they push back hard. This story dives into that wobbly balance, where a mom’s nudge for responsibility collides with a teen’s quest for autonomy, leaving both wondering who’s right.

‘AITA for telling my 17 year old she needs to go to her volunteer job and not “no call-no show” for a third time?’

My daughter is 17. She is good in school and working hard. She has no chores or rules really. The one rule we have is that she leave her location on her phone if she’s going out. In our country, it’s legal for her to drink and so she goes to bars. She doesn’t have a curfew she just has to keep us updated that she’s safe.

These rules work for her because she is normally responsible. We let her throw a house party recently where it was supposed to be 25 people and at least 100 kids came. We cleaned up the mess. She signed up for a volunteer job to get into college and it’s every Sunday for three hours. She has been doing this since January and already missed two weeks.

One due to illness, one due to illness from a hangover. She also has left a half hour early every week since she started. This Sunday she overslept but there was still time to get in and she said she wasn’t going. I told her she has to go. She made a commitment and that if she doesn’t want to do it she should give her two weeks notice.

She said I’m controlling her. I asked how. She said asking for examples is a form of gaslighting. She called me a c-word multiple times. She can’t give me any other examples of me being controlling but insists I am. She told me she will never let me see my grandchildren when she has them.

She said I’ve been yelling at her for six months and been rude. My husband was in disbelief because he’s been here and I haven’t yelled at her at all. She then tried to storm out without her phone and I told her she needed to go to her room and she said that was abuse.

She can talk very fast and confuses my husband sometimes so now I don’t know if I’m the crazy one. I know maybe we should have more rules, but I had very very controlling abusive parents so I have tried to be much more permissive. Her side of the story is that another girl who trained her in volunteering said no one cares if you turn up or not and no one cares if you leave early.

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But I pointed out the emails from the volunteer staff say it does matter that they are there and attend. She said those emails are none of my business. Which maybe they’re not but she asked me to get her the volunteer work so they come to my email.. AITA?

Parenting a teen feels like herding cats—especially when your kid’s got one foot in adulthood. This mom’s clash with her 17-year-old over a no-show volunteer job reveals a classic tug-of-war: freedom versus duty. The daughter’s got a sweet deal—no chores, no curfew, even bar nights—but flaking on a college-bound commitment isn’t just slacking; it’s a red flag. Her lashing out, calling Mom controlling and worse, shows defiance, not reasoning. Mom’s permissive style, born from her own harsh childhood, might’ve left gaps where boundaries should stand.

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This isn’t just about one Sunday—it’s about preparing kids for life. Psychologist Dr. Lisa Damour, in a New York Times piece , says, “Teens need responsibilities to build resilience, even if they resist.” The daughter’s claim that “no one cares” about attendance doesn’t hold up—emails from staff prove otherwise. Her fast-talking accusations (gaslighting, abuse) sound like deflections, maybe picked up from social media buzzwords. A 2023 Pew Research study found 70% of teens crave structure despite pushing back, suggesting she might need firmer lines, not less.

Mom’s not wrong to push accountability—colleges value consistency, and ditching shifts could hurt applications. But her hands-off approach left room for entitlement; a 100-person party mess, cleaned by parents, screams missed consequences. Dr. Damour advises clear expectations: “Set non-negotiables, like honoring commitments, and follow through.” Mom could’ve set rules earlier—say, limiting parties or tying privileges to reliability. Now, she might try a calm sit-down: “I want you to succeed—how can we make this work?” If defiance persists, natural consequences—like losing the gig—teach better than lectures.

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See what others had to share with OP:

Reddit’s a circus of opinions, and this post got the crowd roaring—here’s the scoop, with a wink of humor:

Creepy-Stable-6192 − NTA. Seems her not making it to this job is straining the friendships she made there. She is trying to use psych babble to get you off her back and make you out to be the bad guy. Probably because she feels bad. In your country is she still considered a child and therefore you and her father are still responsible for her?

Fizl99 − NTA, she needs to learn to take responsibility as she grows into adulthood. If she doesn't go that also has implications she needs to deal with. Teenagers are good at saying its not their fault, whether it is or isn't!. INFO - does she lose the college place if she doesn't do the voluntary work?

urmomaskank − You had controlling abusive parents and for whatever reason decided to raise your child with zero rules, responsibility and basically let her decide and dictate everything? Children still need rules and boundaries, raising them without any is a form of abuse as well. This sadly is a major disservice to society as she seems to be an entitled brat.

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NTA and You are the A\*\*\*\*\*\* because the world is now going to have to deal with her in some capacity. I hope things workout for you I really do but she's 17 and has had no rules, no boundaries, she called you a c\*\*\*? Honey you have bigger problems than the no call no show I'm too hungover to go in situation. You and your husband are her emotional punching bag and her servants. YIKES!

RB1327 − NTA. Why are you letting your 17yo kid steamroll you like this? You need to get your scene under control here. Too hungover to go to her job, calling you a c***, throwing a 100-person party when you said keep it to 25. No telling what else she is up to that you don't know about.

asimpledruidgirl − Are you sure she's normally responsible? Because every example you've given indicates the exact opposite. It's not good for kids' development for parents to be too overbearing, but it's also not good for there to be zero consequences, either. Did she have ANY sort of consequence for the house party incident?

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Or was she allowed to let her friends trash the house with just a stern

MISKINAK2 − Whoa. Why did you allow it the first two times?! It's a volunteer position that means they were counting on her and she let them down. If it were a job, big deal, no show no money. BUT a *volunteer* job? That's pretty low.. She's run circles around you and your husband *and* you're about to release her on the world?. You're not doing her any favours.. Step up mom, your kid needs a kick in the pants.

glassycake − YTA. I knew where this was going as soon as you said she’s 17 and “has no rules.”. This is a self-created problem. Kids need love AND boundaries.  

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QL58 −

princessgee3 − Let her not go and let her get fired. Thats life. Actions have consequences, you gave her good advice which is that if she doesn’t go she will get fired, and she’s right it’s her choice to listen or not. You have set this paradigm in your household it will be hard to change up on her now lol.

If she’s old enough to go to bars and drink she’s old enough to decide whether or not she wants to get fired from a job. And if it ends up hurting her college application she’ll learn herself a good lesson called regret because she will have no one to blame but her own hungover self.

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LimeInternational856 − INFO: Did your daughter sign up for her volunteer job voluntarily?

These takes are spicy, but do they solve the puzzle? Maybe the truth’s hiding in the hangover haze.

This mom’s Sunday standoff with her teen wasn’t just about a missed shift—it was a wake-up call about freedom’s fine print. Giving a kid wings is great, but without guardrails, they might crash. Her daughter’s fiery words sting, but they’re a chance to reset, not retreat. Parenting’s no script, just heart and hustle. So, what would you do—let her skip and learn the hard way, or double down on duty? Jump in below—how do you steer a teen when they’re speeding off course?

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