AITA for telling my dad I won’t be funding his retirement?

When a father extends a helping hand, the expectation is that his support will uplift rather than burden his family. This was the case when a new baby’s arrival prompted an invitation from a father who offered his fully paid-off, three-bedroom house as a solution for more space. His plan seemed promising—a way for the family to enjoy a larger home, save money, and foster more time together. At first, it sounded like the perfect compromise: the couple would have their own top-floor haven while he occupied the basement, with only the cost of utilities to worry about.

However, as the details unfolded, the deal transformed into a potential financial trap. What began as an altruistic offer quickly took on unexpected strings: a demand for $30K in basement renovations, and whispers of future rent charges to fund his retirement adventures. The initial generosity soured into a proposal that threatened to undermine the family’s financial stability and independence, forcing the daughter to draw a line in the sand.

‘AITA for telling my dad I won’t be funding his retirement?’

So my husband and I recently had a baby. We’ve been together for over 10 years. We have our own apartment, it’s a little small so we do eventually want to upgrade. My dad lives alone in a 3 bedroom house which is fully paid off. He’s semi retired, retired early and has a really good pension but still works part time.

He’s also a narcissistic functioning a**oholic. I have had a long history of issues with him and if it wasn’t for wanting a nicer place for the baby I wouldn’t even be considering this. He would love nothing more than to spend his days drinking and watching Netflix, but he has to work a bit still because his pension doesn’t cover all his bills.

Just two months ago he was in the ICU for alcohol poisoning. Anyway, when my baby was born he offered to let us move in so we would have more room and be able to have more money for the baby. He said we would take the top floor and he would have the basement (with a kitchenette and bathroom). He said all he would want from us is to pay the utilities.

I THOUGHT this was a way of him reaching out for help. If we live there then he would be able to see us and his grandbaby more often and maybe he wouldn’t be so lonely and drink so much. Well fast forward to now, we discussed it more in depth and he wants to do $30k worth of renos to the basement before we move in, which he wants us to pay for in monthly payments once we move in which… ok fine fair enough.

THEN he says he wants to stop working once we move in and in 2 or 3 years he ‘may’ decide he wants to ‘do something with his life’ like travel the world and take out $30-$40k against the house to do so, at which point he would ‘have to’ start charging us rent (amount unknown) to pay for that loan…

Am I nuts or does it sound like he wants us to fund his retirement and drinking? The whole point of us moving in was we would save money, now we’re basically going to be back to paying what we are in rent now, stuck in a house that we have no equity in which he could literally sell at any point. I basically told him off because this is NOT how he first offered it to us, and he got pissed off and started screaming at me like he has since I was a kid.

As if he offered us this great thing and we just pissed on it. I mean, if i was in his position and my kid was in my position with rent/house prices the way they are I wouldn’t be charging them rent on top of utilities, the house is paid for! It’s not like he would be supporting us whatsoever, we would be buying our own groceries, driving our own car, both working FT, etc.. So AITA for refusing this great offer?

Financial stress and family dynamics intersect in delicate ways, and experts warn that mixing money with family arrangements can lead to long-term issues. Renowned financial counselor Melissa Hartman advises, “When family offers involve significant financial commitments or strings attached, it’s essential to look beyond the surface. A seemingly generous gesture might hide costs that can impact your financial independence and stability.”

In this case, the unexpected demand for a $30K renovation and future potential rent transforms what appeared to be a free upgrade into a costly burden. Dr. Laura Markham, a family therapist, adds, “Living with family can provide support, but it can also exacerbate existing tensions, especially when one party has problematic behaviors—such as substance abuse—that affect the entire household.”

The arrangement here not only threatens to drain funds but could also expose a young family to a dysfunctional environment, undermining their progress and well-being. With the promise of more space twisted into a trap of additional expenses and possible eviction from their financial goals, it’s clear that maintaining independence is paramount.

Moreover, experts emphasize that clear, honest communication is crucial when it comes to family deals. If the original offer evolves into something unmanageable, it’s perfectly reasonable—and necessary—to reconsider. The daughter’s firm stance is a reminder that financial decisions, especially those intertwined with family obligations, should never compromise personal or familial well-being.

Here’s how people reacted to the post:

Here are some of the candid reactions from Reddit—voices that echo widespread caution. Many commenters empathized with the daughter’s refusal, stating that the reworked deal no longer offered any savings and instead resembled rent payments for a house that isn’t even theirs.

“He wants your money to fund his trips and drinking,” one user remarked, underscoring the risk of getting trapped in a financially exploitative situation. Others noted that even if the living arrangement initially appeared beneficial, living in the same house as a narcissistic, semi-functional alcoholic is a recipe for long-term dysfunction. The prevailing sentiment is clear: protecting your financial and emotional wellbeing trumps any short-term gain.

EsmeWeatherwax7a − NTA. You wouldn't be an AH for refusing any offer, but you can see already that this has moved a long way away from being a great one. And that's before you moved in, yes? So this is him presenting his best face to get you to agree? Even if it saved you money, which it does not sound like it will, raising your baby in the house with a narcissistic a**oholic is not a good plan for your family. If the choice is money or peace, choose peace.

TemptingPenguin369 − NTA for a number of reasons, most of which you stated. You would pay for his renovations, then have no equity in a house that he could sell right from under you. And do you really want a child around a adult who's drinking enough that he needs to stay in hospital?

Having-hope3594 − NTA. Paying the $30K for his basement improvements monthly. Sounds like rent to me.  Then, he may want to charge rent on top of that?  Too much unknowns. Even with the straight utilities only, staying in the same house as a narcissistic a**oholic is risky. . He can find some other tenants if he is serious. . Sorry he led you down the primrose path. 

LoveBeach8 − NTA What a

You're good.. Save money towards getting a bigger place. Keep to a tight budget and in time, you can do it.. Congratulations on your beautiful baby! EDIT: Consider going LC or even NC. He may be a grandpa but it sounds like he's an unstable one. If he screams at you, that's scary and I wouldn't want my child to witness that or be on the receiving end.

Stunning_Patience_78 − ESH. I honestly don't think you thought about it in depth at all about how terrible it could get when you first accepted. YTA for even considering having your baby live with someone else as messed up as he is right now. Get your head out of the sand.

DuckWithAnEye − NTA. He's negated half your reasons for moving in. If he wants to remortgage and rent it out, he can do that with some actual tenants. You said in your second paragraph you want a nicer place for the baby. Ask yourself which is nicer; a bigger home with a

WaldenWould − You do not move yourself, your new baby, and your spouse into a house with a narcissistic, semi-functional a**oholic. WTAF? Do you actually hear yourself saying that? I would stay in my tiny apartment for years and years as opposed to exposing my family to such a situation.

No amount of money and extra room is worth that dysfunction.. Never willingly live with a person in active addiction. NEVER.. If you choose this, you will be the a**hole of the universe ever.. Your baby deserves so much more than daily life with an a**oholic.

dandylionesssss − NTA, now.. Run. Don't do it. Don't move in with him. Run!

In case you've never watched Judge Judy, you should know that living with someone has the tendency to strain a rocky relationship, not fix it! You'll be at each other's throats in no time! ◇ Money and family/friends don't mix. Even if the word

Maybe at first. I guarantee you he'll demand rent at some point. One day he'll ask if you really needed that mani-pedi and notice one day maybe you go shopping and spend more than he likes... instead of spending that extra saved money just on your baby, he'll think you're wasting it. So, you MUST have enough money to pay something in rent.

You'll argue. He'll kick you out. Relationship ruined. ◇ $30k loan. $2500/mo for a year. $500/mo for 5 years. Maybe you don't pay the 1st of each month, he gets annoyed but doesn't say it, resentment sets in. Or, you'll hit a rough patch and miss a payment or 2. You'll argue.

◇ (the one I fear the most) You and hubby both work, so who watches baby? Dad will want to. He's an a**oholic - functioning or otherwise - if you EVER leave the baby alone with him, Child Protective Services BETTER come.. ◇ just for giggles... does the house reeeaaally need renos?. Don't end up making yourself the AH.

Otherwise_Degree_729 − NTA. Speaking as someone raised in a home with a drunk. I would have rather shared one tiny room with my mom and siblings than be anywhere near my house growing up. More space is not worth your child’s mental health. Is not healthy for anyone to live in that environment let alone a child.. You won’t be safe, especially financially (even physically if he drink enough).

I learned from experience that an a**oholic will chose his next drink over family. If his money runs out he is going to take from you and even your child. Me and my siblings had birthday money, babysitting money etc. stolen by someone that was family. If they don’t find money they will take anything they can resell.

Internal_Home_9483 − NTA. Never mind all the financial stuff.  You are considering accepting your narcissistic a**oholic dad’s invitation to move in with him because you think it means he wants to stop drinking, he’s only drinking because he’s lonely.  NO NO NO NO NO!

You can’t fix him, you can’t cure him, you can’t love him enough to make him love you and your baby the way you want him to. He wants someone to take care of his drunk ass so he can drink even more.  He cut back on work so he can drink more.  He wants your money so he can drink more.

Forget the financial stuff, do you really want to move back in with your drunk dad, knowing his drinking will keep getting worse?  Do you want to let him do to your child what he did to you?  Because that is what he will do.. Forget the financial stuff, focus on the fact that your dad is an a**oholic.  Don’t move in with him.

In the end, what seemed like a golden opportunity to upgrade living conditions and enhance family time quickly turned sour. When a parent’s offer transforms into a hidden trap of financial obligations and personal exploitation, it’s only natural to stand your ground. Are you willing to risk your financial stability and peace of mind for an arrangement that may cost you more than you bargained for?

What are your thoughts on mixing family with big financial decisions, especially when trust is already in question? Share your experiences and insights in the comments—let’s discuss how to navigate the delicate balance between family support and maintaining independence.

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