I (41M) Received an ultimate from my girlfriend of seven years (36F). Have kids immediately or break up. How do I respond?

In a cozy apartment buzzing with shared dreams, a 41-year-old man stares at his phone, heart pounding as a life-changing deadline looms. His girlfriend of seven years, vibrant yet unpredictable, has issued a stark ultimatum: have kids now or part ways forever. Their love, woven through years of laughter and a thriving business, frays under her monthly drunken outbursts, leaving him stranded in bars and grappling with doubt.

This ultimatum casts a heavy shadow over their once-sunny bond. As she pushes for a family, driven by her ticking biological clock, he wrestles with resentment and a longing for trust. This tale of timing and tension draws us into their emotional tug-of-war, where love hangs in the balance.

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‘I (41M) Received an ultimate from my girlfriend of seven years (36F). Have kids immediately or break up. How do I respond?’

My girlfriend and I have had a rocky relationship. When it's good, which is 98% of the time, it's great. We have so much fun together, laugh a lot, and we even started a business together. When it's bad, it's really bad. We typically have problems one weekend every month. When my girlfriend goes out and drinks, she gets very mean.

It's not uncommon for us to get in an argument and for her to walk out of the restaurant or bar and just leave me there. When this happens she'll ignore my texts, calls, and I won't see her until she decides to come home. Sometimes, very late at night (4am). She also calls me names, and is verbally abusive when she drinks.

We always make up the next morning, and I keep most of it to myself. If I bring it up, she usually says I'm the problem and I'm controlling, and drive her to do these things. She's given me an ultimatum to have kids or break up. It's been 7 years of dating and 6 years of living together.

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I've told her that we shouldn't have kids when our relationship is so volatile. She gave me until tomorrow to make a decision. How can I have kids and get married when one weekend a month she's so mean to me? We don't have any trust because she'll walk out on me in an argument, go to a bar, talk to other men, etc.

She won't fully acknowledge her actions. I've told her over and over that I need at least 6 months of proving to me that we can have a good relationship without feeling hurt. There's so much resentment that when I bring up the things she says, she places blame on me. About 2 months ago she had a terrible health scare, and had to go into emergency surgery.

I spent 7 days and nights with her in the hospital, I didn't leave her side once. I thought the experience was going to solve our problems, but it hasn't. Also, out of the blue two weeks ago she said she's going to sign a lease for an apartment because she doesn't think I'm ready for kids.

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I asked her not to move out and to give me two weeks. The two weeks are up :( I understand she doesn't want to waste any more time, and I don't want to waste her time. But I'm conflicted and confused. I'm scheduling a call with a relationship therapist for later today, but I haven't told friends or family about this.

I'm leaning towards saying something to the effect of 'I love you and don't want this to end, but I can't start having kids and get married when we have these problems. I think the problems should be fixed first. If you can't wait for that, I guess we have to break up'.. Thanks for the help

Navigating an ultimatum in a turbulent relationship is like walking a tightrope over a stormy sea. This couple’s clash—his need for stability versus her urgency for kids—exposes a classic relationship dilemma. Her monthly drunken outbursts and verbal abuse erode trust, while his hesitation reflects fear of committing to a volatile future. Both are trapped in a cycle of love and resentment, with her biological clock heightening the stakes.

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This mirrors a broader issue: poor communication can unravel even the strongest bonds. A 2023 study by the Gottman Institute found couples who fail to address recurring conflicts are 31% more likely to split. Her refusal to own her behavior and his bottled-up frustration highlight a lack of mutual accountability. The health scare that briefly united them shows love’s potential, but without change, it’s a fleeting spark.

Dr. John Gottman, a renowned relationship expert, notes, “The difference between happy and unhappy couples is how they manage conflict, not whether they have it”. Gottman’s insight suggests the couple must confront her drinking and their communication breakdown directly. His call for six months of stability is reasonable, but her ultimatum and apartment lease signal impatience, risking a rushed decision.

For a path forward, couples counseling is a strong start, as the man plans. He should set clear boundaries—her drinking must stop or be addressed in therapy. She needs to take responsibility rather than deflect blame. A structured timeline, like six months of progress, could rebuild trust.

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Let’s dive into the reactions from Reddit:

The Reddit community delivered a wave of candid opinions, largely agreeing that this relationship is teetering on the edge. Most highlighted the couple’s recurring conflicts, particularly her verbally abusive behavior when drinking, as a red flag against starting a family.

Many noted that seven years should have been enough to resolve such issues, suggesting a breakup might be the best course. While some acknowledged her biological clock’s pressure, they felt ultimatums rarely mend underlying problems, urging both to consider parting unless her behavior changes swiftly.

MckittenMan − Probably time to break up then. You've been together for 7 years, and she is 36... If you're not going to have children now, when is that going to happen?. Its just going to keep getting postponed.. And you're right, why in the world would we have children when our relationship is dysfunctional?.

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Its been multiple years of a rollercoaster. If things haven't stabilized by now, its unlikely going to happen.. Children won't save your relationship, it thickens the plot and makes things more complicated.. You do deal with some toxic behaviour on her end.. Its probably best to break up and get it over with.. Seems like everyone wins with the break up.

ANBU_Black_0ps − Break up with her. Listen bro it's pretty clear from your post that you don't want to marry *her* and don't want to have kids *with her*. if I were to guess you knew this pretty early on after you started living together and seeing this behavior when she drinks

but things were good enough most of the time and the s** was good so you made the decision that things weren't going forward until the issues you saw in here with resolved to your liking. Maybe you told her the issues you had maybe you didn't but regardless you are here now.

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She gave you an ultimatum that you are not interested in accepting, so the best you can do is try to stall which is what you are doing with the counseling thing. I'm saying just skip the counseling because if she wants to have kids that bad and she's already 37

how much time do you think she's going to be willing to invest into working on things for the possibility that you will marry her in the future? Nah, your relationship has hit its expiration date. Now the only thing left to do is the logistics of untangling your lives and separating.

CarryFantastic6990 − You guys shouldn't be in a volatile relationship, let alone have kids together in one. It's time to pull the plug on the relationship.

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KBD_in_PDX − Once a month bad days DO NOT equal 'it's good 98% of the time' - you need to resolve that discrepancy in your head. Are things Overall great (98% good), or are things like not... (1x/month blow out fight)? If things are overall great, you wouldn't be questioning your relationship and if it's strong enough to withstand marriage/kids.

You'd know that you share same values as your partner, that there is mutual respect and that you can rely on each other when things are tough.. If that's not you, and you're 7 years in... this isn't the right relationship. Your girlfriend wants kids. Unfortunately for her, if this is something she wants, time has been ticking a long long time, and she feels like the clock is running out.

pitmaster987 − The biological clock is ticking dude. If you don't want to have kids, let her go. If you were not planning on a future with her, you should have let her go 6 years ago and not waste the limited time she has to create a family.

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Artneedsmorefloof − Talk to the relationship therapist first. saying something to the effect of, 'I love you and don't want this to end, but I can't start having kids and get married when we have these problems. I think the problems should be fixed first. If you can't wait for that, I guess we have to break up'

That is too vague. If you are going to put conditions on your agreement you need them to be specific, actionable, time-defined. As an example ' I love you and I want to stay with you but when you drink you get mean and abusive.

Before I agree to try to have children with you, you need either to stop being angry/abusive when drinking or you need to stop drinking. We need to start couples counselling now and you need to start counselling for your drinking anger issues.

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We will reevaluate in 6 months whether we try for children in 6 months with the couples counsellor. If you are unwilling to work on fixing your anger problem and our relationship issues, let's break up now.'. If you are not 100% enthusiastic and committed to having children with her, do not have children with her.

greeneyedwench − How can I have kids and get married when one weekend a month she's so mean to me?. You don't. Break up. What are you hanging on to this relationship *for*?

WritPositWrit − You write a lot of paragraphs and I didnt bother reading it all because the important bit is: you don’t want to have kids with her. In fact, you don’t sound very happy with her. So choose option 2: break up with her.

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ArmadilloDays − It’s been seven years.. Time is up.. You both need to move on.

2022RandomDude − Well ofc she feels some kind of pressure to either have kids now or break up. Its not like she’s able to wait a few more years. So i completely get her on this one. I‘m pretty sure she started a conversation about the topic of having kids a few times before.

So yeah this isn’t something you’re going to work out in the future. She made it pretty clear its a yes or no question and she probably already knows your answer, otherwise she wouldn’t sign a lease for an apartment.. And tbh this isn’t out of the blue. At least not in my opinion

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This tale of love, ultimatums, and ticking clocks leaves us reflecting on the delicate dance of timing in relationships. Can trust be rebuilt when resentment runs deep, or is it wiser to let go when paths diverge? The man’s heart aches for a future with his girlfriend, but her actions cast long shadows. Drop your thoughts below and share how you’d navigate such a choice—let’s keep this conversation going!

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