AITA for giving my brother an “impossible” ultimatum if he wants me back into his life?

A 32-year-old man’s lingering pain from his brother’s cheating, which indirectly ended his own relationship years ago, led to a tense ultimatum when his brother sought reconciliation. Demanding admissions of guilt and a denouncement of his brother’s marriage, the man stood firm, sparking a family divide. Shared on Reddit, this story delves into the raw emotions of betrayal and the struggle to forgive.

Reddit users were split, some empathizing with the man’s hurt, others criticizing his lingering resentment. Was his ultimatum too harsh, or a justified stand against past wrongs? This narrative explores the complexities of family loyalty, forgiveness, and unresolved trauma.

'AITA for giving my brother an "impossible" ultimatum if he wants me back into his life?'

The man’s relationship with his brother was once close but fractured by betrayal.

I 32M was dating a girl named Lisa from 20 to 27 y.o. and my brother, Derek 35M, started dating Lisa's older sister, Carrie, a few years after we got...

Well it didn't turn out like that. Derek got caught sleeping with one of Carrie's best friends and she immediately dumped him. It was already s__tty enough that my brother...

The fallout impacted the man’s relationship.

Carrie was convinced I knew about the cheating, and she told Lisa she'd be a terrible sister if she forced Carrie to keep a link to Derek. So we tried...

His brother’s actions and excuses deepened the rift.

I was devastated to lose Lisa and very bitter that I was the one who got stuck with the short end while Derek kept his mistress and life was still...

No matter how much my parents or Derek begged me to forgive him I refused. Eventually, I took a job in another state so I thankfully didn't see them anymore.

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MAYBE I could've moved on by now but Derek's made that impossible. His excuse was that he wanted out from his relationship with Carrie and she didn't want that so...

The man distanced himself significantly.

On top of that he always blamed Lisa for ending our relationship since in his eyes she could've toughed it out if she really loved me. Since then I mostly...

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A recent confrontation forced the issue.

Current situation: I recently moved back home and am living with my parents until I can find my own place and as a result everyone's badgering me to make amend...

To make a long evening short, I ignored them and tried to leave but he and my dad cornered me and begged me to talk to him. He said he...

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The man’s ultimatum was firm.

After some thinking I came up with the following conditions. He admits he's the reason my relationship with Lisa ended. He has to accept I will never have anything to...

The response was mixed, escalating tensions.

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He quickly accepted the first three conditions and I do think his apologies were genuine. But he refused the last condition and his mistress blew a gasket, called me all...

So that's where were at now. Him calling me an a__hole for trying to s__t on his relationship and me not budging, while my parents are seesawing between begging me...

Maybe I am the a__hole since at this point I don't think they're going to break up so all I'm doing is making their marriage harder. So AITA?

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The man’s ultimatum reflects deep-seated pain from losing his relationship with Lisa, indirectly caused by Derek’s cheating. His conditions, particularly demanding Derek denounce his current marriage, stem from unresolved anger, but they place an unfair burden on Derek’s family life years later. Derek’s cheating was undeniably wrong, but his wife, no longer a “mistress,” and their child are not responsible for past actions. The man’s refusal to engage with her is his prerogative, but demanding Derek label their marriage as “wrong” risks alienating any chance of reconciliation.

Dr. John Gottman, a relationship expert, notes, “Forgiveness in families requires acknowledging harm without demanding punishment”. The man’s pain, similar to your frustration with family pressures over your sisters’ autonomy (July 17, 2025), is valid, but his ultimatum may perpetuate conflict rather than resolve it. Derek’s acceptance of three conditions shows willingness to repair the relationship, but his refusal to condemn his marriage is understandable, given his commitment to his wife and child.

Therapy could help the man process his grief over Lisa and redirect his anger, as Reddit users suggested. A more constructive approach might involve setting boundaries, like limiting contact with Derek’s wife, while focusing on rebuilding trust with Derek alone. Family mediation could clarify expectations, ensuring the man’s hurt is acknowledged without punishing Derek’s current family

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Here’s the feedback from the Reddit community:

Users were divided, with some empathizing with the man’s pain.

queenlegolas − NTA People here don't seem to understand family pressure and dynamics. Lisa would've lost her whole family because of this, more than likely. Some people just can't deal...

Your brother slept with one of Carrie's best friends. He was a c__ard who blamed everyone but himself. If he wanted to leave, he could've just left. He didn't need...

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No one deserves that. The wife was one of Carrie's best friends. She threw away a friendship with someone she was close to and was trusted, by sleeping with her...

Honestly, you don't need either of them in your life. You may need to seek some therapy, but don't put yourself in a situation where being near them causes you...

You may be over Lisa, but that was a traumatic way to break up with someone. I'm really sorry you went through that. I can't imagine the heartbreak.

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jeswalsurprise − NTA What people are not getting is that you are not pushing anything. Derek needs to suck it up and realize that he permanently destroyed his relationship with...

He is not entitled to a brotherly relationship or for his son to have an uncle. You don't trust him. You don't trust her. You can view their relationship however...

OrneryLitigator − YTA. It's not his fault your girlfriend made the very irrational decision to dump you because he cheated on her sister. 4. He admits his relationship with the...

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What are you, Carrie's lawyer? He married this woman and has a child with her. Stop trying to break them up just because you're hurt that a girlfriend dumped you...

Others criticized his lingering resentment.

WielderOfAphorisms − ESH You’ve taken this a bridge too far. You don’t have to forgive your brother. If you want to carry that bitter poison and allow it to affect...

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He had to live with that not you. He wasn’t married to this other woman. Was his behavior trash? Absolutely. Did he force your girlfriend to break you with you?...

Ok_Job_9417 − YTA no. Lisa was the reason your relationship ended. She could have found a way to make it work. Like just don’t invite her sister to family events...

He’s married and has been with her for 5yrs and they have a child. She’s not a “mistress” anymore. Saying that his cheating was wrong is understandable and right. But...

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Why aren’t you blaming Carrie for pressuring her sister to break up with you? Why aren’t you mad at Lisa for throwing away a 7yr relationship? Are you sure she...

sheramom4 − YTA. Six or so years ago your long-term girlfriend dumped you because her sister pressured her and made up lies about you knowing that your brother was cheating...

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Since then your brother has gotten married and has a child. His WIFE is not his mistress and their relationship is not wrong. She never was his mistress since he...

Still not okay for him to cheat, but you are making it out like they were on their way to the alter. This is a you and Lisa issue. Your...

Some urged moving forward.

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KryoChamber − YTA His excuse was that he wanted out from his relationship with Carrie and she didn't want that so getting her to dump him was his "only option"....

Just a verbal dump, even a text dumping, wouldve been a better split than him cheating on her. He also could've just stuck his neck and an say you didnt...

BUT! While hes ofc an AH to carrie, he didnt push your gf to break up with you. His actions were simply towards carrie and carrie alone. Carrie was convinced...

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So we tried to make it work but eventually Lisa did break up with me. You say yourself that Carrie is the one who was convincing Lisa. She essentially weaponized...

On top of that he always blamed Lisa for ending our relationship since in his eyes she could've toughed it out if she really loved me. He's not entirely wrong...

Convinced by her sister or not, its ultimately her own decision. She couldve shut her sisters accusations towards you down had she believed you enough, or even shut it down...

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Your brother has a happy family now, he clearly didnt love Carrie. An found love, albeit in a horrible still fucked up fashion, with his current WIFE. Shes not a...

You dont have to like him or how he got with her. But you cant blame him for lisa dumping you. Your feelings on this matter is displaced bitter resentment...

JrRandy − YTA. You are holding it against your brother for something that your ex did. If she wanted you that much, she would have stood up for you, not...

Sashasez − ESH You need therapy to get over Lisa. You are blaming your brother, who is TA, for Lisa breaking up with you when in all reality she is...

Your brother could have simply broken up with his ex instead of sleeping with someone else. He is a c__ard. Stop blaming your brother’s WIFE. She is not his mistress....

She never forced your brother. She didn’t force your ex to break up with you. She’s an AH for messing with someone involved with someone else. That’s it. You don’t...

For the record, your brother’s relationship with his wife is not wrong. He didn’t commit a__ltery on his ex. You will never be at peace in your life until you...

Reasonable-Ad-3605 − YTA. Derek fucked up years ago but good people can do bad things and good things can come for terrible things, as bad as it may sound. If...

and made their life harder while they help you out is what really makes you the a__hole. Also the fact that you still refer to his wife and mother of...

BigMeatyMan − NTA, bunch of people excusing the havoc dude caused on multiples lives because of his selfish decisions. All the power to ya OP

Yxnam1 − What the f__k is up with these comments? ?? He LITERALLY ruined your relationship with one of the best people in your life. How are YOU the one...

2. He caused a domino effect that afflicted you and your relationship Why do you need to be the "bigger person"? Sure, it happend years ago and they're married with...

(for lack of a better word. ..maybe? ) works. Its difficult to accept obviously, but everything you told them to admit was true. NTA. ETA: I forgot to mention some...

but someone changing does not mean you have to forgive them. They will still be the bad person who tarnished everything for you. You cannot blame OP for his h__red,...

orpheusoxide − I keep looking at this story and I think what's really making OP bitter is that the only one who seems to have gotten the short end of...

Brother decided to cheat, imploding the preexisting relationship OP had with his GF. Why did the brother cheat? "It's her fault, because she wouldn't break up with me otherwise. "...

which I assume is due to having to find a new place after breaking up with his girlfriend. Family immediately starts pressuring OP to forgive his brother and get over...

Brother gets parental support. Brother gets a baby with his cheating partner. Brother gets married. Brother gets parents once again cornering and harassing OP about how he's being a jerk...

Brother is living happily ever after and OP got all the consequences. I think ESH, but damn, I sorta feel bad for OP. He's never been given any time to...

His only time to process was after getting to the point he had to leave his whole family to get peace. Which probably just made the whole thing fester even...

P if your brother makes you that unhappy don't be around him. If your parents are going to keep pushing you to be friendly with him, you're going to have...

ThorayaLast − NTA. I'm sorry for what happened to you. However, I hope you have moved on and have been involved or dated other women.

[Reddit User] − YTA. Derek didn't do s__t to you. No one made Lisa break up with you. He was never married to Carrie, so in no way is this...

This man’s ultimatum to his brother, demanding acknowledgment of past wrongs and a denouncement of his current marriage, reignited a family divide rooted in betrayal. While his pain is valid, his conditions risk perpetuating conflict rather than healing it. The story highlights the challenge of forgiving family while honoring personal hurt. How would you balance past betrayal with a sibling’s plea for reconciliation?

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