AITA for telling my Mom she’s selfish and my fiancee deserves a better MIL?

The air was thick with tension as he sat across from his parents, ready to confront the elephant in the room. His fiancée, a woman whose warmth could light up a winter’s night, was crumbling under his mother’s relentless “grandbaby” hints. Each comment stung like a paper cut, deepening her silent pain over her infertility. The man, fiercely protective, couldn’t let it slide anymore.

His mother’s dreams of tiny toes and summer babies were crashing against his fiancée’s reality, and what unfolded was a showdown that tested family bonds. Could love and loyalty outweigh a grandmother’s expectations?

‘AITA for telling my Mom she’s selfish and my fiancee deserves a better MIL?’

My (37M) fiancée (33F) had an emergency surgery years before we met that left her unable to conceive without IVF. She told me this four or five dates in so I knew early on. My fiancée is seriously one of the best humans I’ve ever met and we plan to try IVF, knowing it may or may not be successful.

Since we got engaged, my parents have been endless with the “grand babies” talk. My Mom especially constantly talks about how she can’t wait to be a grandmother, how “Spring and summer babies would be so nice! Hint hint.” I didn’t tell them about my fiancée’s infertility because frankly, her body is no ones damn business but hers.

It bothers my fiancée a lot. She cries pretty much every time this happens. She agreed to let me talk to them so I went over to my parents yesterday and explained it. My mother instantly starts crying, said this is “the worst news for a woman my age” and that she was devastated for me.

My Mom and I are very close, I’m the only child but I still thought this was a huge overreaction. But then she made it much much worse. Back story: I heavily abused drugs and alcohol for most of my teens and twenties. I was sober for 5 years (on year 8 now) before I started dating again and even though I always made it clear that I didn’t expect my partner to also be sober, dating really sucked until I met my fiancée.

She not only supported me but did it enthusiastically. She comes up with these crazy (okay, delicious) mocktails every date night. I took care of all my issues with lots of therapy before I met her but it helps A LOT to have someone so supportive. She constantly makes me want to be a better man.

Anyway, Mom suggested that I got engaged too quickly because I feel insecure about my sobriety (I don’t) and “You know I love (fiancée) very much but have you considered breaking off the engagement and being with someone younger?'. So yeah, I lost my s**t.

I told her she was being selfish, and that my fiancée isn’t a baby making machine and deserves a better MIL. I said that if we are ever able to have kids with IVF, unless she changes her attitude, I don’t want her in my kids’ lives. My Mom and I are really close and we’ve never really fought so she took this really hard.

My Dad says I was out of line and that my Mom is just “grieving” and didn’t mean what she said and regrets it. While I get that, I don’t think that’s an excuse for what she said and I’m not going to encourage that behavior. I haven’t told my fiancée all the details because she would be absolutely devastated.

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My best friend is on my side. Another friend says this is an ESH situation because I overreacted. I’m not saying I’m going to cut my mom out of my life but she needs to apologize and change her attitude.. So let me have it. Did I overreact? Am I the a**hole?

**EDIT:** I see some comments about why I jumped to the infertility. I didn't. When this first started a while ago, I used to joke with my parents that they are basically asking how often my fiancee and I have s** (I know, very mature) hoping they would realize how awkward this is to even ask.

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It didn't work. So I was a lot more direct and told them that we'll have kids when we're ready and they need to let us make the decision. If she is pregnant, they will obviously be some of the first to know. It worked for a while until it started up again. The day all this happened, when my fiancee ordered onion rings, my Mom said 'Oh when I was pregnant with \[me\], I LOVED onion rings!

Same with you??'. I told her to stop but it made my fiancee very very upset. Not the first time she's said something like that after we said to stop. We both agreed that maybe if they knew why this was so hurtful, it would stop. I did not pressure her. I made sure she was on board 100% before I talked to them.

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Family expectations can turn a joyous engagement into a battleground. In this Reddit saga, a man’s defense of his fiancée’s infertility against his mother’s grandchild obsession reveals a deeper clash of boundaries and empathy. The mother’s suggestion to “find someone younger” exposes a fixation on her own desires, sidelining the couple’s reality.

The opposing perspectives are stark: the man and his fiancée prioritize their relationship and potential IVF journey, valuing mutual support over societal pressures. His mother, however, seems trapped in a fantasy of grandparenthood, ignoring the emotional toll her comments inflict. Her reaction reflects a broader issue—generational expectations clashing with modern realities. According to a 2023 study by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, 1 in 8 couples face infertility challenges, yet societal pressure for biological children persists, often amplifying personal grief (asrm.org).

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To navigate this, the couple could set firm boundaries, clearly stating that fertility discussions are off-limits. Open communication, perhaps through a family meeting with a neutral mediator, could help the mother understand the pain her words cause. For broader context, support groups like RESOLVE (resolve.org) offer resources for couples facing infertility, emphasizing the importance of allyship from loved ones.

Ultimately, the man’s fiery defense was a stand for his fiancée’s dignity. His mother must reflect and apologize to rebuild trust. For now, the couple should focus on their shared goals, leaning on their resilience and love to weather this storm.

Here’s what Redditors had to say:

Reddit didn’t hold back, and their hot takes are as spicy as a summer barbecue. Here’s what the community had to say about this family drama:

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Active_Ad3177 − NTA. And good for you for defending your wife. You are a good man and a good husband.

[Reddit User] − NTA you had an appropriate reaction. Your mother is making it all about herself when the situation’s between you and your fiancée. If your mother can’t be supportive, then it’s time to put her in LC/NC until she **respects** your and your fiancée’s boundaries and stays sane. Same goes with anyone who chooses your mom over your fiancée’s feelings.

They won’t give an sincere apology unless they actually mean it.. which also means you need boundaries or else you’ll keep losing your s**t. Edit: your parents, and friends who claim ESH are AH’s as well. That’s why it’s not NAH. Mom saying you shouldn’t have gotten engaged solely because of the babies.. is warrant enough to get angered about. That’s pretty gross and f**ked up.

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throwawayaitaoresh − Want to add in: We dated for 2 years before getting engaged so I personally don't think that's too fast...

VixNeko − NTA. You are a great fiancé and if one day it happens for you, you will be amazing parents. Your mother really made this about herself when she should have had empathy for your fiancée. I especially loved this part:.

My fiancée isn’t a baby making machine and deserves a better MIL. Kudos for showing that it's not that hard to stand up for not only yourself, but for the person that you love.. Wishing you both all the best and a wonderful life together.

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Quiet-Essay-9268 − NTA. Your relationship and your choice to have children or not are YOURS. I am in my mid 60's, and do not, and may not ever, have grandchildren. Yes, that makes me sad. But it is not my place to put my desire for grandchildren ahead of my children's relationships with their so's.

Grandchildren are not a right, they are a blessing if and when they arrive. Your mother didn't get the message because it wasn't the message she wanted to hear. Your 'talking' it out wasn't going to do the trick.

Beneficial-Ladder-57 − Any woman that talks about when they are receiving grandchild is an a**hole because they are pressuring. Then again they did not know about the fertility issues, but that does not give them an excuse to ask you to call off your engagement NTA.

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ServelanDarrow − I stopped at 'being with someone younger'. Your mother is one of the biggest AH's I've ever read about on here. You are NTA.

CandiesAintMe − You did not overreact and you are not an a**hole. Your mother MUST understand that her becoming a grandmother is a byproduct of YOU becoming parents which in turn is a byproduct of you thinking that you will be able to give a child the best possible life:

To be really direct, it's not something she has even the faintest say in, so she must just sit there and hope without pestering you and making you feel bad.. ​Each day I'm getting more and more convinced that everyone who wants to be a parent should probably be tested for their ability to understand boundaries before they even get to try and conceive.

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ImStealingTheTowels − NTA Mom suggested that I got engaged too quickly because I feel insecure about my sobriety (I don’t) and “You know I love (fiancée) very much but have you considered breaking off the engagement

and being with someone younger?' The friend who thinks e-s-h is totally in the wrong. Your mother has reduced your fiancée to an incubator due to her own selfish desires to have grandchildren and she deserved everything you said to her.

She doesn't seem to think you're committed to staying sober either, which to me says she doesn't have a lot of faith in you which is very sad. You do need to tell your fiancée everything that went down with her. You cannot hope to deal with this properly while she is in the dark as to how your mother truly thinks.

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bdar22 − NTA, your mom owes you both a huge apology. It’s great that you stood up for your fiancée like that. Your mom’s reaction to the whole thing is very selfish. I get that a lot of people look forward to having grandkids but it’s not her decision. It’s also so rude when people start making those comments, assuming that everyone wants to have children.

These are the internet’s unfiltered opinions, but do they cut through the noise or just add to it? One thing’s clear—Reddit’s got no chill when boundaries are crossed.

This tale of loyalty versus family expectations leaves us wondering where the line should be drawn. The man’s defense of his fiancée shines as a beacon of love, but can his mother redeem herself with a heartfelt apology? Families are messy, and this one’s no exception. What would you do if caught between a loved one’s dreams and your partner’s pain? Share your thoughts—have you faced a similar clash, and how did you handle it?

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